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Date: 10 Nov 2006 19:53:04
From: 26.2
Subject: when should I run the next Marathon?
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I ran the 2006 Marine Marathon on 29th Oct. That was my first marathon.
Most of the places on internet says take 26 days of rest before
starting any serious running. My overall time was 5 hour at the MCM. I
walked a lot in last 6 mile. I was in pain. Till mile 20 I was running
at 4hrs and 30min marathon pace. I could not keep up with the cliff bar
pace team after 20Mile.
I ran 27miles a week from May to October for the Marine Marathon.
Anyway, I am going to run the 1/2 Marathon in Atlanta on Thanksgiving
day. I will run it as a 13 mile long run. I may hurt myself if I try to
run the full Marathon. That is why I am running the half.
I plan to run the ING Marathon at Atlanta on 25th March.
I need advice. what should I do to increase my speed and run the ING
Marathon in March below 4 hours .I have access to very good gym with
all kind of equipment. At present I am trying to increase my cadence to
180 from 160 on some short easy pace runs.
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Date: 11 Nov 2006 10:13:29
From: gr0tt0
Subject: Re: when should I run the next Marathon?
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Congratulations on the marathon! Great first effort.
I would be careful about the half-marathon. If your legs are fresh and
springy, then go and run it as a long run. But if they are still a little
stale from the marathon, you might want to think twice. Could be a recipe
for injury that could put you out for much longer. Beware of getting the
"Invincible Runner Syndrome" from your post-race enthusiasm!
4 hours is a laudable goal. But, at this point, I think you would be better
served to just increase your base and maybe increase the length or frequency
of the long runs (depending on where you are now) just so you can finish
without walking. Once you can complete a marathon non-stop, then you can
think about tweaking your speed.
Good luck in Atlanta!
"26.2" <bobbymazumder@gmail.com > wrote in message
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> I ran the 2006 Marine Marathon on 29th Oct. That was my first marathon.
> Most of the places on internet says take 26 days of rest before
> starting any serious running. My overall time was 5 hour at the MCM. I
> walked a lot in last 6 mile. I was in pain. Till mile 20 I was running
> at 4hrs and 30min marathon pace. I could not keep up with the cliff bar
> pace team after 20Mile.
> I ran 27miles a week from May to October for the Marine Marathon.
>
> Anyway, I am going to run the 1/2 Marathon in Atlanta on Thanksgiving
> day. I will run it as a 13 mile long run. I may hurt myself if I try to
> run the full Marathon. That is why I am running the half.
>
>
> I plan to run the ING Marathon at Atlanta on 25th March.
>
> I need advice. what should I do to increase my speed and run the ING
> Marathon in March below 4 hours .I have access to very good gym with
> all kind of equipment. At present I am trying to increase my cadence to
> 180 from 160 on some short easy pace runs.
>
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Date: 11 Nov 2006 13:21:45
From: I2Run
Subject: Re: when should I run the next Marathon?
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"26.2" <bobbymazumder@gmail.com > wrote in message
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Date: 11 Nov 2006 04:28:34
From: Dan Stumpus
Subject: Re: when should I run the next Marathon?
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"26.2" <bobbymazumder@gmail.com > wrote
> I ran the 2006 Marine Marathon on 29th Oct. That was my first marathon.
> Most of the places on internet says take 26 days of rest before
> starting any serious running.
Basically, start running again when you feel like doing it. You don't need
to take anything like 26 days off. Maybe they mean wait 26 days before
racing again...I usually need 3-4 weeks before I feel like getting into hard
training again, but I'm usually ready to run after 5 days (and I shuffle a
bit before that...).
> My overall time was 5 hour at the MCM. I
> walked a lot in last 6 mile. I was in pain. Till mile 20 I was running
> at 4hrs and 30min marathon pace. I could not keep up with the cliff bar
> pace team after 20Mile.
> I ran 27miles a week from May to October for the Marine Marathon.
Not bad on that minimal mileage. If you were to average 40-45 miles/week,
you will be stronger, and may be able to keep it up and run 4:30 ish.
> Anyway, I am going to run the 1/2 Marathon in Atlanta on Thanksgiving
> day. I will run it as a 13 mile long run. I may hurt myself if I try to
> run the full Marathon. That is why I am running the half.
That is a smart move, but don't turn it into a death march, try and run it
easy...
> I plan to run the ING Marathon at Atlanta on 25th March.
> I need advice. what should I do to increase my speed and run the ING
> Marathon in March below 4 hours.
Sub four may or may not be within your grasp at this time -- it is what it
is. If you can run a 10k in 48-49 minutes, and get your mileage up to 40+
with long runs, you may have a shot at it, but no guarantees.
Also, losing weight makes a big difference. If you can get your BMI down to
23 or less, you'll go faster...
> I have access to very good gym with
> all kind of equipment. At present I am trying to increase my cadence to
> 180 from 160 on some short easy pace runs.
I don't think fancy equipment in a gym gets you anything -- just smart and
consistent training. Others on this board can point you to some good
training programs...
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Date: 12 Nov 2006 16:31:26
From: Ed Prochak
Subject: Re: when should I run the next Marathon?
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26.2 wrote:
> I ran the 2006 Marine Marathon on 29th Oct. That was my first marathon.
Congratulations!
> Most of the places on internet says take 26 days of rest before
> starting any serious running.
What sites are those? sounds extremely conservative to me. Run when you
feel like running. Listen to you body.
> My overall time was 5 hour at the MCM. I
> walked a lot in last 6 mile. I was in pain. Till mile 20 I was running
> at 4hrs and 30min marathon pace. I could not keep up with the cliff bar
> pace team after 20Mile.
> I ran 27miles a week from May to October for the Marine Marathon.
As mentioned that is pretty low mileage for marathon training. Lots of
folks with that kind of mileage never finish, so you seem to be a
strong runner.
>
> Anyway, I am going to run the 1/2 Marathon in Atlanta on Thanksgiving
> day. I will run it as a 13 mile long run. I may hurt myself if I try to
> run the full Marathon. That is why I am running the half.
take it easy, but you may suprise yourself.
>
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> I plan to run the ING Marathon at Atlanta on 25th March.
>
> I need advice. what should I do to increase my speed and run the ING
> Marathon in March below 4 hours .I have access to very good gym with
> all kind of equipment. At present I am trying to increase my cadence to
> 180 from 160 on some short easy pace runs.
Skip the machines. What you need is miles-on-feet. Runner's world has
training plans that you can review. I have used the Galloway book for
running the marathon. I found I like his philosophy of getting in long
mileage before the actual race. And the three week taper is a must. So
a March target for your next one sounds like a good plan.
Keep in touch and let us know how it's going.
Enjoy the run.
Ed
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