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Date: 12 Nov 2006 22:33:56
From: yk
Subject: running in the rain
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What should I wear to run in the rain for >3 hours at around 45F ?
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Date: 13 Nov 2006 18:24:26
From: Dot
Subject: Re: running in the rain
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yk wrote:
> What should I wear to run in the rain for >3 hours at around 45F ?
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Light weight rain gear over short t-shirt and shorts. Pit zips in the
top, and full length zips on the bottom.
Warm sweat is preferable to cold rain for me. Be sure your sweaty legs
can move inside the pants. I used a Marmot Precip top and REI versatech
wind pants (not waterproof but reasonably comfortable to run in and my
bare legs don't stick to them like they do to Precip bottoms - I tested
beforehand).
Had a 4+ race in 40s, light wind above treeline, light intermittent rain
in August - and I didn't put my rain gear back on over my shorts above
treeline (started with them, then peeled as I warmed up and we were
protected by trees). Major mistake for current race time; good learning
experience for longer races down the line.
Some wore tights, but said they were getting a little warm on the climb.
In the future, I might try that, but at the time I didn't have any
tights that don't absorb water.
For feet, I use Smartwool socks with ultimax liners. I also had a
coolmax ball cap on and had warm hat and mittens in my pack, but didn't
use them. Had they been in some readily accessible pockets, I might have.
Dot
--
"Dream big and dare to fail." --- Norman Vaughan
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Date: 13 Nov 2006 18:35:41
From: Dot
Subject: Re: running in the rain
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Dot wrote:
> yk wrote:
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>> What should I wear to run in the rain for >3 hours at around 45F ?
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> Light weight rain gear over short t-shirt and shorts. Pit zips in the
> top, and full length zips on the bottom.
I forgot - I had a minimalist shell (3 oz, Marmot chinook) on over the
t-shirt, and not sure if that or other long sleeves would have been
needed under the rain top. But the shell was ok in the rain we had,
would have been inadequate in heavier rain for that many hours exposure.
It's lightweight and dries fast.
--
"Dream big and dare to fail." --- Norman Vaughan
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Date: 13 Nov 2006 08:57:30
From: Beginning runner
Subject: Re: running in the rain
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In article <iO2dnb5sre9BjMXYnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@comcast.com >,
"yk" <jitensha5@hotmail.com > wrote:
> What should I wear to run in the rain for >3 hours at around 45F ?
Clothing.
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Date: 13 Nov 2006 07:19:02
From: runsrealfast
Subject: Re: running in the rain
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yk wrote:
> What should I wear to run in the rain for >3 hours at around 45F ?
go to a sporting goods store and get some fishing waders... ok bad
idea. I theroy in the rain is that you need to stay dry. That mean keep
the rain off you but what your wearing can't overheat you to much that
you sweat real bad.
John
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Date: 13 Nov 2006 14:23:04
From: Elflord
Subject: Re: running in the rain
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On 2006-11-13, yk <jitensha5@hotmail.com > wrote:
> What should I wear to run in the rain for >3 hours at around 45F ?
Legs: thin body-hugging tights. You want something that won't soak up
too much water.
Socks: smartwool or some light merino wool -- stays warm when your feet are
drenched.
Top: Something that doesn't turn into a sponge when it gets wet. This takes
some experimentation. Unless it's water proof, you should go for something
that's body-hugging. I like my Sporthill Explorer top. It's made of polypro
which doesn't absorb water the way polyester does. I also find cycling clothes
good for these conditions.
I don't like "raincoats" of any kind, but that's a personal preference.
Gloves: again, something that won't get soaked and make you cold. Smartwool
is good (water repellent). Polypro is also good. Waterproof rain gloves are
OK. Don't worry about your hands getting too warm. You are not going to have
a global overheating problem because of warm hands.
Cheers,
--
Elflord
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Date: 13 Nov 2006 13:00:43
From: Doug Freese
Subject: Re: running in the rain
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"yk" <jitensha5@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:iO2dnb5sre9BjMXYnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@comcast.com...
> What should I wear to run in the rain for >3 hours at around 45F ?
First off 40-45 is about the ugliest conditions to run in and to be out
there for 3+ hours means you really need the proper clothes. I'd rather
have it colder and be snow.
For these conditions Gortex and it brothers will be needed. You will
need at least a jacket that breathes and sheds water. Equally important
is good wicking shirt underneath. You need the continuum of pulling the
moisture away from your skin and then some evaporation.
As for your legs, I can get buy with tights and thin wind breaker
pants. They make pants made from the same material as the jacket. Some
feel the pants are overkill. It depends on how sensitive your legs are.
Gortex and company aren't cheap unless you catch a fire sale and with
the cold season approaching, this not the best time to look for a
bargain.
There are tables/charts that map features such as, temperature ranges,
water resistant vs. water repellent etc. etc. I think Donovan and/or
Deb H had a web page(s) with some details.
-Doug
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Date: 13 Nov 2006 05:51:23
From: yk
Subject: Re: running in the rain
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Thank you Doug. This is very helpful.
Do you have any suggestion on shoes/socks, hats, and gloves?
"Doug Freese" <dfreese@hvc.rr.com > wrote in message
news:%%Z5h.24279$Fw5.20576@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com...
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> "yk" <jitensha5@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:iO2dnb5sre9BjMXYnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@comcast.com...
> > What should I wear to run in the rain for >3 hours at around 45F ?
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> First off 40-45 is about the ugliest conditions to run in and to be out
> there for 3+ hours means you really need the proper clothes. I'd rather
> have it colder and be snow.
>
> For these conditions Gortex and it brothers will be needed. You will
> need at least a jacket that breathes and sheds water. Equally important
> is good wicking shirt underneath. You need the continuum of pulling the
> moisture away from your skin and then some evaporation.
>
> As for your legs, I can get buy with tights and thin wind breaker
> pants. They make pants made from the same material as the jacket. Some
> feel the pants are overkill. It depends on how sensitive your legs are.
> Gortex and company aren't cheap unless you catch a fire sale and with
> the cold season approaching, this not the best time to look for a
> bargain.
>
> There are tables/charts that map features such as, temperature ranges,
> water resistant vs. water repellent etc. etc. I think Donovan and/or
> Deb H had a web page(s) with some details.
>
> -Doug
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>
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Date: 13 Nov 2006 13:41:40
From: Tim Downie
Subject: Re: running in the rain
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Doug Freese wrote:
> "yk" <jitensha5@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:iO2dnb5sre9BjMXYnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> What should I wear to run in the rain for >3 hours at around 45F ?
>
> First off 40-45 is about the ugliest conditions to run in and to be
> out there for 3+ hours means you really need the proper clothes. I'd
> rather have it colder and be snow.
>
> For these conditions Gortex and it brothers will be needed. You will
> need at least a jacket that breathes and sheds water.
Maybe. ;-)
I did a 5:45 run in the rain & wind on Saturday night when the ambient
temperature was 5-6 C (41-43 F) with Gore Mercury long sleeve top & cheepo
Ron Hill leggings. No other under or over shirt.
http://www.alexandrasports.com/ProductDetails/mcs/productID/8012/groupID/4/categoryID/25/v/948479b3-9dc2-4656-a616-31c484c60e8e
I tried wearing a gortex jacket but overheated far too quickly. I think
the main attribute of my top that helped was it's wind resistance compared
to most of my running tops. By preventing the wind from penetrating, it
greatly reduces heat loss. Of course you stay soggy inside it but, like a
wet suit, it is at least *warm* and soggy. (Just don't try and speed the
process up by peeing into your leggings).
> The important is good wicking shirt underneath. You need the continuum
> of pulling the moisture away from your skin and then some evaporation.
Not sure if any useful evapouration takes place when it's raining and the
air is 100% saturated. ;-)
>
> As for your legs, I can get buy with tights and thin wind breaker
> pants. They make pants made from the same material as the jacket. Some
> feel the pants are overkill. It depends on how sensitive your legs
> are.
I think my legs must fall into the "insensitive" bracket. ;-)
Tim
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Date: 13 Nov 2006 08:15:35
From: Peter
Subject: Re: running in the rain
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"yk" <jitensha5@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:iO2dnb5sre9BjMXYnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@comcast.com...
> What should I wear to run in the rain for >3 hours at around 45F ?
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One of these should suit you admirably...
http://lawcmyip.trustpass.alibaba.com/product/11626871/Umbrella_Hat.html
Peter
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Date: 13 Nov 2006 03:48:30
From: Todd H.
Subject: Re: running in the rain
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"Peter" <yahoo2006peter@googlemail.com > writes:
> "yk" <jitensha5@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:iO2dnb5sre9BjMXYnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@comcast.com...
> > What should I wear to run in the rain for >3 hours at around 45F ?
> >
>
> One of these should suit you admirably...
> http://lawcmyip.trustpass.alibaba.com/product/11626871/Umbrella_Hat.html
> Peter
And don't forget this for the running companion:
http://furlongspetsupply.com/dog_umbrellas.htm
--
Todd H.
http://www.toddh.net/
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Date: 13 Nov 2006 19:15:35
From: yk
Subject: Re: running in the rain
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Thank you all for a lot of good suggestions.
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Date: 13 Nov 2006 16:03:18
From: Al Bundy
Subject: Re: running in the rain
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yk wrote:
> What should I wear to run in the rain for >3 hours at around 45F ?
This really depends on your personal preferences. If you have trained
to run three hours, you should already have trained in various
conditions. If you have stayed inside during bad weather, shame on you.
And that must be the case if you are asking strangers what to wear.
I hate the cold, but consider 45=B0 and a drizzle to be the ideal race
conditions. If you are running at 90%+ of capacity then you develop
plenty of heat. I'd be wearing shorts, gloves, hat, visor, long sleved
T with a short sleved T on top. If things went well, I would pitch the
top T as soon as I could. If the rain is heavy and there is lots of
wind, then I would add a light wind breaker. A cheap windbreaker with a
hood might be helpful.
PS. All rain is not equal. It's created equal, but by the time it
reaches the ground it can vary. You can have a 35=B0 rain in the summer
or a 50=B0 rain when the ground temp is 45=B0. I suggest you have some
options to consider as the time approaches and go with the minimum.
PPS. If all you are attempting is a fun time during a race, then wear
your usual training sweats and be ready to DNF if the going becomes the
least bit uncomfortable.
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Date: 14 Nov 2006 22:00:32
From: Miss Anne Thrope
Subject: Re: running in the rain
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A straight jacket.
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Date: 15 Nov 2006 07:13:39
From: Tom Wheeler
Subject: Re: running in the rain
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or a suit that not fit right.
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Have a gooday mate:
I am a happy camper.
ad a bodybuilder.(well trying)
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