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Date: 11 Apr 2006 08:02:32
From: Charlie Pendejo
Subject: restoring rain repellency


My Marmot Precip jacket (2003 vintage) has lost much of its water
resistance, and now 30 - 40 minutes into a run it wets out, if that's the
right phrase: water starts to soak through it.

There's some way to refresh a garment's waterproofness, right? Like washing
with some product made by Nikwax? What's the preferred product, and how
well does this work?

Followup: my wife's Precip is in worse shape than mine, with some of the
lining having visibly peeled away. Maybe the DWR restorer will make it
right, but if it doesn't, what are a few of the currently favored rain/wind
shells with at least some breathability (which I already know is
insufficient for running, if you keep it fully zipped; but it'll also be
used for hiking etc)?






 
Date: 11 Apr 2006 06:56:26
From: Phil M.
Subject: Re: restoring rain repellency


Charlie Pendejo wrote:

> My Marmot Precip jacket (2003 vintage) has lost much of its water
> resistance, and now 30 - 40 minutes into a run it wets out, if that's the
> right phrase: water starts to soak through it.
>
> There's some way to refresh a garment's waterproofness, right? Like washing
> with some product made by Nikwax? What's the preferred product, and how
> well does this work?

I recall a discussion on this a few years ago -
http://tinyurl.com/feqen

> Followup: my wife's Precip is in worse shape than mine, with some of the
> lining having visibly peeled away. Maybe the DWR restorer will make it
> right, but if it doesn't, what are a few of the currently favored rain/wind
> shells with at least some breathability (which I already know is
> insufficient for running, if you keep it fully zipped; but it'll also be
> used for hiking etc)?

I really like my Cloudveil Half Moon jacket -
Men's: http://tinyurl.com/fwj6k
Women's: http://tinyurl.com/hdwty

It is waterproof enough to keep my dry in a steady rain.

--
Phil M.



 
Date: 11 Apr 2006 13:33:52
From: Twittering One
Subject: Re: restoring rain repellency


Try Replens.
I hope that helps.



 
Date: 11 Apr 2006 18:33:08
From: Dot
Subject: Re: restoring rain repellency


Charlie Pendejo wrote:
> My Marmot Precip jacket (2003 vintage) has lost much of its water
> resistance, and now 30 - 40 minutes into a run it wets out, if that's the
> right phrase: water starts to soak through it.

You could move north where it's still snowing ;) (actually, we're in the
mixed rain and snow time)

>
> There's some way to refresh a garment's waterproofness, right? Like washing
> with some product made by Nikwax? What's the preferred product, and how
> well does this work?

http://www.marmot.com/service/faq.php#8
(Marmot may have some arrangements with the brand they recommend, but
don't know - like they pay Marmot for the recommendation. cynical in my
old age)

>
> Followup: my wife's Precip is in worse shape than mine, with some of the
> lining having visibly peeled away. Maybe the DWR restorer will make it
> right, but if it doesn't, what are a few of the currently favored rain/wind
> shells with at least some breathability (which I already know is
> insufficient for running, if you keep it fully zipped; but it'll also be
> used for hiking etc)?

FWIW, when this question came up on another forum recently, Marmot
Precip was still the overwhelming favorite. But the people who posted
have all had theirs for multiple years. Precip has changed substantially
over the years and there is a Precip Plus (?). I've heard the newer ones
are more breathable and not as noisy.
http://tinyurl.com/m8msc

In any rain gear where you expect to be in heavy rain for hours, I think
the only way to get "breathability" is to have vents, like pit zips. At
least everything I own and have tested that claims "breathable" just isn't.

Dot

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