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Date: 20 Jun 2006 16:41:53
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Subject: ouch my friggin knees!!!
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hello all,
i'm a new runner and i've been really happy with my progress over the
course of the last month. i've gone from being a smoker barely able to
run a mile to running almost 2 full 9 minute miles without walking. i
am concerned about my knees. generally they only hurt for the first
minute or so - just until i get used to the motion - but today, after
having skipped 3 days of running for unrelated reasons, my knees hurt
much worse and for about 5 minutes this time... is this going to
progress? is there an easy fix? could it be that my knees are just achy
and building strength? the pain is located on the inner portion of my
knee, just behind the kneecap - is this a problem with my patela (sp?)
- do i need those silly knee wraps with the holes in the middle? sorry
for the bulk questions... thanks in advanced for any help!
thanks again,
krep
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Date: 20 Jun 2006 19:36:41
From: krep
Subject: Re: ouch my friggin knees!!!
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Thanks again for your posts. I did some further research and found out
that part of my problem may be related to the fact that i am doing
almost nothing in the way of warm-up. Also, the footwear thing is a
problem - especially for people with flat feet. I grabbed the following
from http://healthlink.mcw.edu/article/926052680.html - i hope people
can use this in the future to help themselves.
-- Preventing Knee Problems
Some knee problems, such as those resulting from an accident, can't be
foreseen or prevented. However, a person can prevent many knee problems
by following these suggestions:
Before exercising or participating in sports, warm up by walking or
riding a stationary bicycle, then do stretches. Stretching the muscles
in the front of the thigh (quadriceps) and back of the thigh
(hamstrings) reduces tension on the tendons and relieves pressure on
the knee during activity.
Strengthen the leg muscles by doing specific exercises (for example, by
walking up stairs or hills, or by riding a stationary bicycle). A
supervised workout with weights is another way to strengthen the leg
muscles that support the knee.
Avoid sudden changes in the intensity of exercise. Increase the force
or duration of activity gradually.
Wear shoes that both fit properly and are in good condition to help
maintain balance and leg alignment when walking or running. Knee
problems can be caused by flat feet or overpronated feet (feet that
roll inward). People can often reduce some of these problems by wearing
special shoe inserts (orthotics). Maintain a healthy weight to reduce
stress on the knee. Obesity increases the risk of degenerative
conditions such as osteoarthritis of the knee.
-- Exercises
Three types of exercise are best for people with arthritis:
Range-of-motion exercises help maintain normal joint movement and
relieve stiffness. This type of exercise helps maintain or increase
flexibility.
Strengthening exercises help keep or increase muscle strength. Strong
muscles help support and protect joints affected by arthritis.
Aerobic or endurance exercises improve function of the heart and
circulation and help control weight. Weight control can be important to
people who have arthritis because extra weight puts pressure on many
joints. Some studies show that aerobic exercise can reduce inflammation
in some joints.
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Date: 20 Jun 2006 19:27:47
From: krep
Subject: Re: ouch my friggin knees!!!
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thanks all... i am in fact wearing an old pair of pumas when running.
i've been meaning to correct that. i have extremely flat feet to begin
with - and candles for legs - so i may need to take all of your advice.
i'll slow down a little with the running until i've built up a little
more leg strength. are treadmills easier enough on the knees to make a
difference?
userfriendly wrote:
> <kreplech@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1150846913.101308.53340@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> : hello all,
> :
> : i'm a new runner and i've been really happy with my progress over the
> : course of the last month. i've gone from being a smoker barely able to
> : run a mile to running almost 2 full 9 minute miles without walking. i
> : am concerned about my knees. generally they only hurt for the first
> : minute or so - just until i get used to the motion - but today, after
> : having skipped 3 days of running for unrelated reasons, my knees hurt
> : much worse and for about 5 minutes this time... is this going to
> : progress? is there an easy fix? could it be that my knees are just achy
> : and building strength? the pain is located on the inner portion of my
> : knee, just behind the kneecap - is this a problem with my patela (sp?)
> : - do i need those silly knee wraps with the holes in the middle? sorry
> : for the bulk questions... thanks in advanced for any help!
> :
> : thanks again,
> : krep
> :
>
> Before you look into runner's knee, check your shoes. Back when I first
> began running, my knees hurt for the first few minutes of a run. Turn's out
> I was running in old shoes and they weren't the right kind (cushioned vs.
> stability vs. motion-control).
>
> Good luck,
> Brian
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Date: 20 Jun 2006 22:12:59
From: userfriendly
Subject: Re: ouch my friggin knees!!!
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<kreplech@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1150846913.101308.53340@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
: hello all,
:
: i'm a new runner and i've been really happy with my progress over the
: course of the last month. i've gone from being a smoker barely able to
: run a mile to running almost 2 full 9 minute miles without walking. i
: am concerned about my knees. generally they only hurt for the first
: minute or so - just until i get used to the motion - but today, after
: having skipped 3 days of running for unrelated reasons, my knees hurt
: much worse and for about 5 minutes this time... is this going to
: progress? is there an easy fix? could it be that my knees are just achy
: and building strength? the pain is located on the inner portion of my
: knee, just behind the kneecap - is this a problem with my patela (sp?)
: - do i need those silly knee wraps with the holes in the middle? sorry
: for the bulk questions... thanks in advanced for any help!
:
: thanks again,
: krep
:
Before you look into runner's knee, check your shoes. Back when I first
began running, my knees hurt for the first few minutes of a run. Turn's out
I was running in old shoes and they weren't the right kind (cushioned vs.
stability vs. motion-control).
Good luck,
Brian
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Date: 20 Jun 2006 21:39:21
From: BobB
Subject: Re: ouch my friggin knees!!!
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Krep,
Sounds like "runner's knee". It is caused by weak quad muscles allowing the
knee cap to move around too much. Google it and compare symptoms. If you
have it you need to start a program of single leg presses to build the
quads. It is very curable but it takes time. It must be treated or it will
get worse with running.
Bob
<kreplech@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1150846913.101308.53340@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> hello all,
>
> i'm a new runner and i've been really happy with my progress over the
> course of the last month. i've gone from being a smoker barely able to
> run a mile to running almost 2 full 9 minute miles without walking. i
> am concerned about my knees. generally they only hurt for the first
> minute or so - just until i get used to the motion - but today, after
> having skipped 3 days of running for unrelated reasons, my knees hurt
> much worse and for about 5 minutes this time... is this going to
> progress? is there an easy fix? could it be that my knees are just achy
> and building strength? the pain is located on the inner portion of my
> knee, just behind the kneecap - is this a problem with my patela (sp?)
> - do i need those silly knee wraps with the holes in the middle? sorry
> for the bulk questions... thanks in advanced for any help!
>
> thanks again,
> krep
>
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Date: 21 Jun 2006 00:25:14
From: Dan Stumpus
Subject: Re: ouch my friggin knees!!!
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<kreplech@gmail.com > wrote
> ....the pain is located on the inner portion of my
> knee, just behind the kneecap - is this a problem with my patela (sp?)
> - do i need those silly knee wraps with the holes in the middle? sorry
> for the bulk questions... thanks in advanced for any help!
Sounds like a touch of chondromalacia (google it). If you try and soldier
through it, it may get worse, and you'll have a long-term problem on your
hands. In the meantime, ice works when I have a flare-up.
I'd go to a podiatriast who treats a lot of runners. Ask around at a
running club or running store for a referral. Sometimes, it's caused by
abnormal motion of the foot, which causes the knee to twist slightly and the
kneecap to move outside it's normal track.
I had achy knees when I started running. Orthotics to stabilize my foot
motion fixed the problem for me, although ymmv. Knee wraps, straps, etc,
don't deal with the problem, imo.
-- Dan
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Date: 21 Jun 2006 08:36:02
From: Mike
Subject: Re: ouch my friggin knees!!!
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<kreplech@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1150846913.101308.53340@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
is there an easy fix?
90% of the time, no.
But you're in luck! Try competitive beach lying. Muscles become strong,
from work outs, faster than tendons and bones. Vitamin D from the sun helps
build bones.
Now how to build tendons...
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