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Date: 20 Apr 2006 14:03:32
From: dwjones45
Subject: is jeremy wariner making a mistake?
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i am reading in the may issue of track and field news that jeremy wariner
wants to do the michael johnson double(the 200 and 400 meters) at the 2008
olympics. my question is why would he want to run the 200 and 400 meters?
frankly i do not see warnier having much of shot of even making 200 meter
team when u have the likes of gatlin, crawford, spearmon and gay running
the 200. i would much rather see warnier move up and run the 800 and
possibly give the africans a competitive race which is something the
american halk milers have not been able to do in quite a while. so who else
agrees with me that warnier is making a mistake by running the 200?
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Date: 20 Apr 2006 12:35:43
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Subject: Re: is jeremy wariner making a mistake?
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he ran a 20.41 200m in highschool. michael johnson's best was 21.4.
he has said he thinks he can go sub 20.
in the last several weeks he's clocked a 20.59 & 20.37 (all in
texas at meets). what's he say about his work outs?
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?It was really hot in Waco, about 95 degrees and with the humidity, it
was really hot,? he said. The workout consisted of seven 200m
repetitions in 27 seconds with 105 seconds rest in between. Just an
hour before, Wariner said he concluded a grueling weight session. ?So
it was a tough workout, particularly with the heat and humidity.?
He said that his workouts are virtually identical to those of his
mentor and manager, Michael Johnson, with one pivotal exception. ?He
had less rest,? he said, explaining that Johnson had reached a training
level that he and his training partners Williamson and Sanya Richards
have yet to reach. Johnson would bounce back after six or seven minutes
of rest between longer sprints of 250 or 300m; right now, Wariner is
rewarded with eight. ?We?re just not ready for that yet. But other than
that, I?m doing pretty much everything he did.?
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Gay, Gatlin, & Spearmon? Ranked 1,2, & 3 in the world at 200m?
Gatlin's not even ever gone sub 20. However I would rank Wariner
right now, today as the 5th faster 200m USA runner behind the 3 bigs
dogs & Xavier Carter.
One edge I give him over all 200m runners worldwide. Wariner just
wins, and I believe that means something when you're in the blocks. He
expects to win and I think he's mentally tougher than all the sprinters
worldwide.
800m? He would have no chance, he's doing the right thing...I give him
1/2 a chance.
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Date: 20 Apr 2006 11:34:28
From:
Subject: Re: is jeremy wariner making a mistake?
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dwjones45 wrote:
> my question is why would [Wariner] want to run the 200 and 400
No kidding - that sounds freaking exhausting! Sheer insanity!! What's
he THINKING??
> meters?
Oh, oops. On this newsgroup, I naturally figured you meant km or
miles.
I have no opinion. Has Wariner run the 800? Often, and/or well?
That's gotta be a tough distance...
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Date: 20 Apr 2006 20:26:28
From: Robert Grumbine
Subject: Re: is jeremy wariner making a mistake?
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In article <1145558068.385724.180420@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com >,
<Charlie.Pendejo@gmail.com > wrote:
>dwjones45 wrote:
>> my question is why would [Wariner] want to run the 200 and 400
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>No kidding - that sounds freaking exhausting! Sheer insanity!! What's
>he THINKING??
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>> meters?
>
>Oh, oops. On this newsgroup, I naturally figured you meant km or
>miles.
>
>I have no opinion. Has Wariner run the 800? Often, and/or well?
>That's gotta be a tough distance...
The worst. 800m is just about the perfectly insane race. If you're
a sprinter, it is far too long. If you're a distance guy, it's far
too fast. It is, as former regular here Paul French put it, an exercise
in pain management. If you can see straight at the finish line, you
didn't run hard enough.
I've raced every standard distance from 50 yards (which, I agree
isn't precisely standard) to 50 km. 800 m is the single most brutal
race. Others have either the benefit of brevity, or that you have
to back off the intensity level. Somehow the long term creep of
your body realizing that you're still out there, 2 hours after you
started, and it doesn't like it, is not nearly as straightforwardly
brutal as to start the 800 (insanely fast, hammering your body) and
to hold that ludicrous pace, keep hammering away, as first small
bears and then entire hillsides of bears tackle you. (Again, if you
don't carry several for at least the last half lap, you're not running
hard enough.)
... er, yes, 800m is what I'm currently working on.
A guy who thinks of adding 200 to his 400 is toast for the 800.
(Not that he wouldn't beat me at the 800, but this doesn't say much.)
We had some discussion of the 800 vs. 400 a while back. After all,
so one side went, MJ could loaf his way to a 50 second first lap,
and then 'just' have to put in a second lap of same time to get
his world record for the 800. But ... 800 is brutal, and specific.
He'd need a major shift in orientation and preparation to go from
400/200 to 400/800.
--
Robert Grumbine http://www.radix.net/~bobg/ Science faqs and amateur activities notes and links.
Sagredo (Galileo Galilei) "You present these recondite matters with too much
evidence and ease; this great facility makes them less appreciated than they
would be had they been presented in a more abstruse manner." Two New Sciences
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Date: 23 Apr 2006 13:07:28
From: Beach Bounty
Subject: Re: is jeremy wariner making a mistake?
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Track and Field. I got a certificate from the here doing 25 mile's a
week one year..
I did the martian marathon,and trail half marathon for runningfit.....
in 5:20, and 2:20.......
I am biking and walking now....well run again once I lose this big
bellie......:)
Ha ha ha The track down the road at High School put up the meter runs
and team too....on board by football conn.....
only walkers this day and hurdles were out......I wonder if they well
keep the gates open this year, some year they lock them........
and say bad things too who ever try to get on there field on there
watch.....
if he do.........well he do....
if he don't well he don't.....
42=B0N,83=B0W 90=B0N,180=B0 90=B0lat,
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Date: 23 Apr 2006 01:48:36
From: Tony S.
Subject: Re: is jeremy wariner making a mistake?
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"dwjones45" <dwjones45@comcast.net > wrote in message
news:D7mdnbQbws5pUdrZnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> i am reading in the may issue of track and field news that jeremy wariner
> wants to do the michael johnson double(the 200 and 400 meters) at the 2008
> olympics. my question is why would he want to run the 200 and 400 meters?
> frankly i do not see warnier having much of shot of even making 200 meter
> team when u have the likes of gatlin, crawford, spearmon and gay running
> the 200. i would much rather see warnier move up and run the 800 and
> possibly give the africans a competitive race which is something the
> american halk milers have not been able to do in quite a while. so who
else
> agrees with me that warnier is making a mistake by running the 200?
I trust his coach Clyde Hart. He wouldn't steer Jeremy wrong if he had no
chance.
-Tony
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Date: 26 Apr 2006 10:10:29
From:
Subject: Re: is jeremy wariner making a mistake?
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On Saturday Wariner clocked in the 400 (Waco, Texas) a 44.12 This
time is stunning, this early in the racing season. I think he's going
sub 40 for sure.
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Date: 26 Apr 2006 17:48:59
From: Tony S.
Subject: Re: is jeremy wariner making a mistake?
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<lanceandrew@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1146071429.390981.168420@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
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> On Saturday Wariner clocked in the 400 (Waco, Texas) a 44.12 This
> time is stunning, this early in the racing season. I think he's going
> sub 40 for sure.
Sub-20 200m? Sub-44 400m? I think he's already gone sub-44, but not sure.
-Tony
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Date: 26 Apr 2006 11:43:34
From:
Subject: Re: is jeremy wariner making a mistake?
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no, this is a PR and by at least a full 1/10th of a second. i think
he'll go sub 20 clean (no wind) this season at 200m.
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