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Date: 18 Aug 2006 11:36:03
From: Art 12
Subject: blood pressure - combine ace and arb?
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With the guidance of my physician, I've been adjusting my bp meds. I
switched from Calcium Chnannel Blocker (norvasc) to ARB/diuretic
(Avalide). My max heart rate increased about 6% and BP is as good as it
can be, but I think performance is not improving as it should with
training. I think the diuretic is limiting stroke volume, so that even
though the heart is pumping faster than before, the aerobic capacity is
not as good as it should be.
ARB alone will not control my BP, I need one other BP med - so my question
is, does anyone here take ARB with ACE?
Thanks,
Art
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Date: 22 Aug 2006 22:09:38
From: Ozzie Gontang
Subject: Re: The Soleus muscle and the over 40s
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In article <1155914997.731093.227680@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com >,
"Phil M." <pmarg@charter.net > wrote:
> Ozzie Gontang wrote:
>
> > If the calf can stretch and only semi relax, the tension is transferred
> > to the tendons.
> >
> > I go for massage, and trigger points and fascial release.
>
> Oz, what is your opinion on "The Stick" for this purpose? I'm sure an
> MT would be best, but for in between sessions or for a quick massage?
Phil,
I find using my body weight on pieces of PVC, or cut off piece of swim
noodle, or a piece of broom handle works better. While the stick is
good, I have to do too much work to get into the muscle. By using edges
of tables, chairs, benches, railings, it's easier to get into the muscle
and keep the rest of the body relaxed and continue to breathe through
the muscle holding on.
Check out these examples
http://www.mindfulness.com/of5.html
http://www.mindfulness.com/of1.html
as ways to massage out one's muscles that cost me nothing nor do I have
to carry anything around with me to massage out my muscles.
In health and on the run,
Ozzie Gontang
gontang@electriciti.com
Maintainer - rec.running FAQ
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/by-newsgroup/rec/rec.running.html
Director, San Diego Marathon Clinic, est. 1975
Mindful Running http://www.mindfulness.com/mr.html
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Date: 23 Aug 2006 01:31:36
From: Phil M.
Subject: Re: The Soleus muscle and the over 40s
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gontang@electriciti.com wrote:
> In article <1155914997.731093.227680@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
> "Phil M." <pmarg@charter.net> wrote:
>
>> Ozzie Gontang wrote:
>>
>> > If the calf can stretch and only semi relax, the tension is
>> > transferred to the tendons.
>> >
>> > I go for massage, and trigger points and fascial release.
>>
>> Oz, what is your opinion on "The Stick" for this purpose? I'm sure an
>> MT would be best, but for in between sessions or for a quick massage?
>
> Phil,
>
> I find using my body weight on pieces of PVC, or cut off piece of swim
> noodle, or a piece of broom handle works better. While the stick is
> good, I have to do too much work to get into the muscle. By using
> edges of tables, chairs, benches, railings, it's easier to get into
> the muscle and keep the rest of the body relaxed and continue to
> breathe through the muscle holding on.
>
> Check out these examples
>
> http://www.mindfulness.com/of5.html
Now I know I'm getting old when your answer is from a reply to me from 8
years ago. ;-)
--
Phil M.
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Date: 02 Sep 2006 10:08:25
From: Ozzie Gontang
Subject: Re: The Soleus muscle and the over 40s
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In article <Xns9827DAEA36D8Bseilogramp@216.77.188.18 >,
"Phil M." <pmarg@charter.net > wrote:
> gontang@electriciti.com wrote:
>
> > In article <1155914997.731093.227680@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
> > "Phil M." <pmarg@charter.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Ozzie Gontang wrote:
> >>
> >> > If the calf can stretch and only semi relax, the tension is
> >> > transferred to the tendons.
> >> >
> >> > I go for massage, and trigger points and fascial release.
> >>
> >> Oz, what is your opinion on "The Stick" for this purpose? I'm sure an
> >> MT would be best, but for in between sessions or for a quick massage?
> >
> > Phil,
> >
> > I find using my body weight on pieces of PVC, or cut off piece of swim
> > noodle, or a piece of broom handle works better. While the stick is
> > good, I have to do too much work to get into the muscle. By using
> > edges of tables, chairs, benches, railings, it's easier to get into
> > the muscle and keep the rest of the body relaxed and continue to
> > breathe through the muscle holding on.
> >
> > Check out these examples
> >
> > http://www.mindfulness.com/of5.html
>
> Now I know I'm getting old when your answer is from a reply to me from 8
> years ago. ;-)
What's amazing Phil is that the answer still holds true. So you and I
keep on saying the same things in different ways so that others might
get what is being said.
All the best,
In health and on the run,
Ozzie Gontang
gontang@electriciti.com
Maintainer - rec.running FAQ
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/by-newsgroup/rec/rec.running.html
Director, San Diego Marathon Clinic, est. 1975
Mindful Running http://www.mindfulness.com/mr.html
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Date: 24 Aug 2006 10:05:45
From: Daniel
Subject: Re: The Soleus muscle and the over 40s
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On 18 Aug 2006 08:29:57 -0700, "Phil M." <pmarg@charter.net > wrote:
>Ozzie Gontang wrote:
>
>> If the calf can stretch and only semi relax, the tension is transferred
>> to the tendons.
>>
>> I go for massage, and trigger points and fascial release.
>
>Oz, what is your opinion on "The Stick" for this purpose? I'm sure an
>MT would be best, but for in between sessions or for a quick massage?
[Jumping in late here...] Brother-in-law has The Stick. Like the
Great And Powerful Ozzie I prefer short lengths of plastic pipe and my
assortment of: softball, baseball, tennis ball (two together in a
cut-off sweatshirt sleeve, used on the neck muscles -- magnifique!).
Plastic pipe sections that are remnant lengths, mis-cut, etc. are
sometimes on clearance at the local hardware store (round off the ends
with sandpaper!). For more control on some areas (glutes, back...) I
put a baseball between me and the wall. I originally got into
myofascial release massage concept because my wife has fibromyalgia
and it helps with some of her chronic pain. Also, I don't think I'm
exceptionally hirsute, but (is it just me?) the little ringy thingies
on The Stick pull leg hair. Ouch!
--
Daniel ( deltaechomike@usa.net )
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Date: 02 Sep 2006 10:06:58
From: Ozzie Gontang
Subject: Re: The Soleus muscle and the over 40s
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In article <1155914997.731093.227680@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com >,
"Phil M." <pmarg@charter.net > wrote:
> Ozzie Gontang wrote:
>
> > If the calf can stretch and only semi relax, the tension is transferred
> > to the tendons.
> >
> > I go for massage, and trigger points and fascial release.
>
> Oz, what is your opinion on "The Stick" for this purpose? I'm sure an
> MT would be best, but for in between sessions or for a quick massage?
Phil,
I have several sizes of the Stick. They're good. However, I'm so use
to working out the muscles by massage and also rolling the muscles on
curbs, benches, railing, bars, etc. to get enough pressure by relaxing
my body weight into the object which allows me to relax and let the
muscles and often the fascia to let go.
I've bought a few swimming noodles over the years or picked them up at
garage sales and cut them into pieces of 14 to 18 inches to lay across
them on the quads and IT to get release.
With the stick I have to use muscles to relax muscles. with the laying
on various edges, surfaces, I can focus on relaxing and breathing my way
through letting the muscles release.
In health and on the run,
Ozzie Gontang
gontang@electriciti.com
Maintainer - rec.running FAQ
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/by-newsgroup/rec/rec.running.html
Director, San Diego Marathon Clinic, est. 1975
Mindful Running http://www.mindfulness.com/mr.html
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