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Date: 15 Jun 2006 07:23:17
From: Raving Loonie
Subject: == Twittering One ... Hidden Considerations ==
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O.K. I shall try and *explain*, just ONE THING in this thread. ( To
start ... )
I will talk about my own situation, as it is easier for you to be
objective about it without emotional involvent.
I also have an issue with the ' performance ' of one of my former
psychiatrists. The context is similar to T1's in one sense and just
as bad as T1's in another; yet opposite sense. It amounts to the same
situation, overall.
For very good reasons, I am told to "give it up"; to walk away from it
...
Actually, I would be delighted to walk away.
I cannot afford to do, so. Impossible.
I am caught in this impossible bind. ... If I surrender, which is
impossible for me, anyhow ... I could move forward in life. ... I
cannot surrender. .. I cannot let go; even if my life depended upon
it.
People in my life, wisely urge me to "surrender". I am being
unreasonable. It is futile. My course of action is a recipe for
disaster.
I REJECT THAT ... The person who is advising me is ramming their
opinion down my throat. That person is demanding that I eat their
words and accept it as the "truth", as reality, as final.
Sorry. No. I cannot. .. To do so, would destroy my sense of self ...
It would destroy my future. Sorry. No.
==============================
What I have described is a 'Perceptual Illusion'. ... It is NOT how
reality "is". It is how reality is perceived to be by "me", the Raving
Loonie.
Those who view me, perceive me to be stubborn, stuck, .. acting
tragically and catrastrophically in my own regard. Yep.
They are also being held prisoner by the SAME perceptual illusion that
keeps me captive.
What is the maddening illusion? ... Why is it happening? ... What can
be done about it?
Step #1 ... Why is it happening?
When you can appreciate what is happening, you can recognize the
situation. ... Eventually, you can escape the trap.
Perspective "A" ... RL cannot let go.
Perspective "B" ... RL must let go.
There is a contradiction, here.
Remember the T. V. game show, Jeopardy?
A game of Petitio Princippi ( Begging the question )
Here is the answer. What is the question? ... it is considered to be
a logical falicy.
------------------------
Perspective "A" ... RL cannot let go.
Perspective "B" ... RL must let go.
... is a perceptual falicy. It is a trick of perspective; a trick
of perception.
The answer is being 'begged'. It is unecessary to provide an answer,
NOW.
Becoming more discursive, here ...
A person asks you a question.
Example: Does Clinton deserve to be president for his philandering
with Monica Lewinski ?
Yes or No?
I WANT AN ANSWER. .. A simple yes or no. It's an important question.
The answer exists.
Yes or No, please. ... I will listen to nothing else, right now.
And you have been 'suckered in' without even realizing it. You have
been ticked; ... fooled.
Look what happened!
As soon as a person asks you a question directly ... You "know" that
they expect an answer. You know that an answer exists and you are
being called upon to provide the answer.
Does Clinton deserve to be president for his philandering with Monica
Lewinski ?
Yes or No?
Why do you *need* to answer the question?
Why is the sky, blue?
Does Fred Flinstone like tortillas?
Who am I?
If you are reading what I write and are being receptive to me; you are
allowing me to steer and direct your "awareness"; your attention.
You are allowing me to do that ... You are allowing me to compell you
to provide an answer to a question.
Or you are allowing yourself to assume that an answer is being called
for; is expected to be forthcoming.
.. PURELY ASSUMED. No answer is expected. No answer is
necessary.
Why is the sky, blue? ... DON'T THINK about the answer.
Does Fred Flinstone like tortillas? ... DON'T THINK about the answer.
Who am I? ... DON'T THINK about the answer.
The answer does NOT necessarily "follow" from a question. For several
reasons, we have a very compelling habit of assuming and insisting that
it should follow.
A conscious effort can be made to withold any consideration of the
'Answer to a question'.
Our natural tendency is to move forward in thought; to tunnel into the
focus of our awareness... or "Answer the question".
No need.
--------------
Returning to the 2 points of view.
Perspective "A" ... RL cannot let go.
Perspective "B" ... RL must let go.
I can look at each perspective as asking a question and thence
immediately "Answering it"
As in ...
Perspective "A" ... RL cannot let go.
Rolled out and speaking to self:
a) Question: "Here is the situation with my former psychiatrist.. ...
pain, agnony, *choking*, anger ..."
b) Answer: "This is really how it is. It's important. I cannot
write it off "
* * *
Perspective "B" ... RL must let go.
Rolled out and speaking to "self" as a friend who knows RL ...
a) Question: "RL is saying that his former psychiatrist is the source
of his problems. .. RL is mired, stuck, emotional, re-acting
intensely, strained, utterly stuck. RL doesn't make sense. He is
preoccupied with his ex psychiatrist.
b) Answer: "This is a bad scene. Remaining stuck is going to drag him
into certain disaster. He is irrational. .. He is behaving like
someone who is mentally unwell. He needs help. He needs to be led or
coerced out of this certain loosing situation. He must accept it. He
must be convinced.
* * *
In both perspectives A and B, the question is the "observing of the
situation " ...
In RL's case ( Perspective "A" ... RL cannot let go. ) it is looking
back at his former psychiatrist. It's looking at how people view RL
and his response to his former psychiatrist. It's looking at how people
view his former psychiatrist.
In the case of those who perceive RL ( Perspective "B" ... RL must let
go. ) RL is struggling and failing while expert, caring, honest and
effective people are trying to help him.
I shall refrain from describing the follow on; the "Answer".
Perspective "A" ... RL cannot let go.
I can appreciate that others perceive this of me. I can accept that
they don't undertand.
.. I CAN PARK THE "THIOUGHT" FOR NOW. ... I do not need to follow
through on it at this instant. .. I do NOT need to draw any
conclusions at this moment.
IN FACT, drawing conclusions just makes life very difficult for me; ..
just gives me a headache. *Hopefully*, I will be better able to
address the situation in the future.
Cordially,
RL
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Date: 15 Jun 2006 10:25:25
From: Sue me for posting facts
Subject: Re: == Twittering One ... Hidden Considerations ==
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Raving Loonie wrote:
> Sue me for posting facts wrote:
> > Raving Loonie wrote:
> > > O.K. I shall try and *explain*, just ONE THING in this thread. ( To
> > > start ... )
> > >
> > > I will talk about my own situation, as it is easier for you to be
> > > objective about it without emotional involvent.
> > >
> > > I also have an issue with the ' performance ' of one of my former
> > > psychiatrists. The context is similar to T1's in one sense and just
> > > as bad as T1's in another; yet opposite sense. It amounts to the same
> > > situation, overall.
> > >
> > > For very good reasons, I am told to "give it up"; to walk away from it
> > > ...
> > > Actually, I would be delighted to walk away.
> > >
> > > I cannot afford to do, so. Impossible.
> > >
> > > I am caught in this impossible bind. ... If I surrender, which is
> > > impossible for me, anyhow ... I could move forward in life. ... I
> > > cannot surrender. .. I cannot let go; even if my life depended upon
> > > it.
> > >
> > > People in my life, wisely urge me to "surrender". I am being
> > > unreasonable. It is futile. My course of action is a recipe for
> > > disaster.
> > >
> > > I REJECT THAT ... The person who is advising me is ramming their
> > > opinion down my throat. That person is demanding that I eat their
> > > words and accept it as the "truth", as reality, as final.
> > >
> > > Sorry. No. I cannot. .. To do so, would destroy my sense of self ...
> > > It would destroy my future. Sorry. No.
> > >
> > > ==============================
> > >
> > >
> > > What I have described is a 'Perceptual Illusion'. ... It is NOT how
> > > reality "is". It is how reality is perceived to be by "me", the Raving
> > > Loonie.
> > >
> > > Those who view me, perceive me to be stubborn, stuck, .. acting
> > > tragically and catrastrophically in my own regard. Yep.
> > >
> > > They are also being held prisoner by the SAME perceptual illusion that
> > > keeps me captive.
> > >
> > > What is the maddening illusion? ... Why is it happening? ... What can
> > > be done about it?
> > >
> > > Step #1 ... Why is it happening?
> > >
> > > When you can appreciate what is happening, you can recognize the
> > > situation. ... Eventually, you can escape the trap.
> > >
> > > Perspective "A" ... RL cannot let go.
> > > Perspective "B" ... RL must let go.
> > >
> > > There is a contradiction, here.
> > >
> > > Remember the T. V. game show, Jeopardy?
> > >
> > > A game of Petitio Princippi ( Begging the question )
> > >
> > > Here is the answer. What is the question? ... it is considered to be
> > > a logical falicy.
> > >
> > > ------------------------
> > >
> > > Perspective "A" ... RL cannot let go.
> > > Perspective "B" ... RL must let go.
> > >
> > > ... is a perceptual falicy. It is a trick of perspective; a trick
> > > of perception.
> > >
> > > The answer is being 'begged'. It is unecessary to provide an answer,
> > > NOW.
> > >
> > >
> > > Becoming more discursive, here ...
> > >
> > > A person asks you a question.
> > >
> > > Example: Does Clinton deserve to be president for his philandering
> > > with Monica Lewinski ?
> > >
> > > Yes or No?
> > >
> > > I WANT AN ANSWER. .. A simple yes or no. It's an important question.
> > > The answer exists.
> > >
> > > Yes or No, please. ... I will listen to nothing else, right now.
> > >
> > > And you have been 'suckered in' without even realizing it. You have
> > > been ticked; ... fooled.
> > >
> > >
> > > Look what happened!
> > >
> > > As soon as a person asks you a question directly ... You "know" that
> > > they expect an answer. You know that an answer exists and you are
> > > being called upon to provide the answer.
> > >
> > > Does Clinton deserve to be president for his philandering with Monica
> > > Lewinski ?
> > >
> > > Yes or No?
> > >
> > > Why do you *need* to answer the question?
> > >
> > > Why is the sky, blue?
> > > Does Fred Flinstone like tortillas?
> > > Who am I?
> > >
> > > If you are reading what I write and are being receptive to me; you are
> > > allowing me to steer and direct your "awareness"; your attention.
> > >
> > > You are allowing me to do that ... You are allowing me to compell you
> > > to provide an answer to a question.
> > >
> > > Or you are allowing yourself to assume that an answer is being called
> > > for; is expected to be forthcoming.
> > >
> > > .. PURELY ASSUMED. No answer is expected. No answer is
> > > necessary.
> > >
> > > Why is the sky, blue? ... DON'T THINK about the answer.
> > >
> > > Does Fred Flinstone like tortillas? ... DON'T THINK about the answer.
> > >
> > > Who am I? ... DON'T THINK about the answer.
> > >
> > > The answer does NOT necessarily "follow" from a question. For several
> > > reasons, we have a very compelling habit of assuming and insisting that
> > > it should follow.
> > >
> > > A conscious effort can be made to withold any consideration of the
> > > 'Answer to a question'.
> > >
> > > Our natural tendency is to move forward in thought; to tunnel into the
> > > focus of our awareness... or "Answer the question".
> > >
> > > No need.
> > >
> > > --------------
> > >
> > > Returning to the 2 points of view.
> > >
> > > Perspective "A" ... RL cannot let go.
> > > Perspective "B" ... RL must let go.
> > >
> > > I can look at each perspective as asking a question and thence
> > > immediately "Answering it"
> > >
> > > As in ...
> > >
> > > Perspective "A" ... RL cannot let go.
> > >
> > > Rolled out and speaking to self:
> > >
> > > a) Question: "Here is the situation with my former psychiatrist.. ...
> > > pain, agnony, *choking*, anger ..."
> > >
> > > b) Answer: "This is really how it is. It's important. I cannot
> > > write it off "
> > >
> > >
> > > * * *
> > >
> > > Perspective "B" ... RL must let go.
> > >
> > > Rolled out and speaking to "self" as a friend who knows RL ...
> > >
> > > a) Question: "RL is saying that his former psychiatrist is the source
> > > of his problems. .. RL is mired, stuck, emotional, re-acting
> > > intensely, strained, utterly stuck. RL doesn't make sense. He is
> > > preoccupied with his ex psychiatrist.
> > >
> > > b) Answer: "This is a bad scene. Remaining stuck is going to drag him
> > > into certain disaster. He is irrational. .. He is behaving like
> > > someone who is mentally unwell. He needs help. He needs to be led or
> > > coerced out of this certain loosing situation. He must accept it. He
> > > must be convinced.
> > >
> > > * * *
> > >
> > > In both perspectives A and B, the question is the "observing of the
> > > situation " ...
> > >
> > > In RL's case ( Perspective "A" ... RL cannot let go. ) it is looking
> > > back at his former psychiatrist. It's looking at how people view RL
> > > and his response to his former psychiatrist. It's looking at how people
> > > view his former psychiatrist.
> > >
> > > In the case of those who perceive RL ( Perspective "B" ... RL must let
> > > go. ) RL is struggling and failing while expert, caring, honest and
> > > effective people are trying to help him.
> > >
> > > I shall refrain from describing the follow on; the "Answer".
> > >
> > > Perspective "A" ... RL cannot let go.
> > >
> > > I can appreciate that others perceive this of me. I can accept that
> > > they don't undertand.
> > >
> > > .. I CAN PARK THE "THIOUGHT" FOR NOW. ... I do not need to follow
> > > through on it at this instant. .. I do NOT need to draw any
> > > conclusions at this moment.
> > >
> > > IN FACT, drawing conclusions just makes life very difficult for me; ..
> > > just gives me a headache. *Hopefully*, I will be better able to
> > > address the situation in the future.
> > >
> >
> > Meanwhile, back in the real world----one or more narcissistic MHP's
> > psychologically injured Virginia, destroyed her ability to work and
> > support herself in the style she was accustomed to, got her evicted
> > and homeless, defamed her as delusional to erode her identiy, got
> > her violently and forced medicated------and, at present, these
> > violent prone narcissists are poised to begin claiming they live in
> > *Great Fear* of her to obtain a corrupt court order to have her removed
> > from her neighborhood of 20 years----if not ordering her to leave the
> > State of NY.
> >
> > You would be 100% correct in suggesting that Virginia is reacting to
> > the psychopathic zero sum game being played against Virginia---by
> > playing a victim psychpathic zero sum game of her own
> > IF----antidepressants and stimulants weren't being DENIED her.
> >
> > But, the freinds of the narcisistic MHP's who created this WORM hole
> > for Virginai are denying Virginia the antidepressants and/or stimulants
> > she requires to have the initiative (as opposed to apathy) to do
> > something to work her way out of the WORM hole the Narcissists created
> > for her.
> >
> > YOU are not being denied antidepressants or stimulants ---so your and
> > virginia's circumstances are NOT comparable---(unless I am mistaken
> > about the fact you aren't being denied antidepressants or stimulants.)
> We are dealing with ' DESCRIPTIONS ', Linda ...
>
> The mistake that everyone makes is to automatically " assume " that
> descriptions must be
>
> decided or acted upon ...
>
> Taking that which is ' PERCIEVED ' and USING the
> SIGNIFICANCE-OF-THAT-PERCEPTION for
>
> <<more>> than is 'sensible' is the PROBLEM, here !
>
> Words are descriptions. ... observations
>
> There are endless inferences which can be drawn.
>
> Each inference is it's own hyperfocus.
>
> The tragic mistake is to take it more seriously and/or sincerely than
> it deserves.
>
> .. It is the quitessential human tragedy.
>
> It is utter deadly. ... easily preventable. ... tragic, needless
> wastage and grief
I agree that Twittering One's narcissistic abusers are playing a DEADLY
psychopathic zero sum game against Twittering one.
I also understand why you are projecting your shit onto T1 wrt her
reactions.
But, it's not true.
T1 is begging for the antidepressant or stimulants T1 needs to jump
start her so she can claw her way out of the worm hole her narcissistic
abusers have trapped her in.
Her narcissitic abusers are using the power of the prescription pad to
deny her the antidepressants or stimulants she needs to preclude her
from having the initiative and clarity of mind needed to do the things
she needs to do to claw her way out of this worm hole.
Why not help encourage T1 to get a hold of european made St. John's
Wort OR s-AME.
then, she might even be capable of discussing the choices T1 has
regarding the narcissists playing psychopathic zero sum games to
eliminate her.
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Date: 15 Jun 2006 08:19:40
From: Raving Loonie
Subject: Re: == Twittering One ... Hidden Considerations ==
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Sue me for posting facts wrote:
> Raving Loonie wrote:
> > O.K. I shall try and *explain*, just ONE THING in this thread. ( To
> > start ... )
> >
> > I will talk about my own situation, as it is easier for you to be
> > objective about it without emotional involvent.
> >
> > I also have an issue with the ' performance ' of one of my former
> > psychiatrists. The context is similar to T1's in one sense and just
> > as bad as T1's in another; yet opposite sense. It amounts to the same
> > situation, overall.
> >
> > For very good reasons, I am told to "give it up"; to walk away from it
> > ...
> > Actually, I would be delighted to walk away.
> >
> > I cannot afford to do, so. Impossible.
> >
> > I am caught in this impossible bind. ... If I surrender, which is
> > impossible for me, anyhow ... I could move forward in life. ... I
> > cannot surrender. .. I cannot let go; even if my life depended upon
> > it.
> >
> > People in my life, wisely urge me to "surrender". I am being
> > unreasonable. It is futile. My course of action is a recipe for
> > disaster.
> >
> > I REJECT THAT ... The person who is advising me is ramming their
> > opinion down my throat. That person is demanding that I eat their
> > words and accept it as the "truth", as reality, as final.
> >
> > Sorry. No. I cannot. .. To do so, would destroy my sense of self ...
> > It would destroy my future. Sorry. No.
> >
> > ==============================
> >
> >
> > What I have described is a 'Perceptual Illusion'. ... It is NOT how
> > reality "is". It is how reality is perceived to be by "me", the Raving
> > Loonie.
> >
> > Those who view me, perceive me to be stubborn, stuck, .. acting
> > tragically and catrastrophically in my own regard. Yep.
> >
> > They are also being held prisoner by the SAME perceptual illusion that
> > keeps me captive.
> >
> > What is the maddening illusion? ... Why is it happening? ... What can
> > be done about it?
> >
> > Step #1 ... Why is it happening?
> >
> > When you can appreciate what is happening, you can recognize the
> > situation. ... Eventually, you can escape the trap.
> >
> > Perspective "A" ... RL cannot let go.
> > Perspective "B" ... RL must let go.
> >
> > There is a contradiction, here.
> >
> > Remember the T. V. game show, Jeopardy?
> >
> > A game of Petitio Princippi ( Begging the question )
> >
> > Here is the answer. What is the question? ... it is considered to be
> > a logical falicy.
> >
> > ------------------------
> >
> > Perspective "A" ... RL cannot let go.
> > Perspective "B" ... RL must let go.
> >
> > ... is a perceptual falicy. It is a trick of perspective; a trick
> > of perception.
> >
> > The answer is being 'begged'. It is unecessary to provide an answer,
> > NOW.
> >
> >
> > Becoming more discursive, here ...
> >
> > A person asks you a question.
> >
> > Example: Does Clinton deserve to be president for his philandering
> > with Monica Lewinski ?
> >
> > Yes or No?
> >
> > I WANT AN ANSWER. .. A simple yes or no. It's an important question.
> > The answer exists.
> >
> > Yes or No, please. ... I will listen to nothing else, right now.
> >
> > And you have been 'suckered in' without even realizing it. You have
> > been ticked; ... fooled.
> >
> >
> > Look what happened!
> >
> > As soon as a person asks you a question directly ... You "know" that
> > they expect an answer. You know that an answer exists and you are
> > being called upon to provide the answer.
> >
> > Does Clinton deserve to be president for his philandering with Monica
> > Lewinski ?
> >
> > Yes or No?
> >
> > Why do you *need* to answer the question?
> >
> > Why is the sky, blue?
> > Does Fred Flinstone like tortillas?
> > Who am I?
> >
> > If you are reading what I write and are being receptive to me; you are
> > allowing me to steer and direct your "awareness"; your attention.
> >
> > You are allowing me to do that ... You are allowing me to compell you
> > to provide an answer to a question.
> >
> > Or you are allowing yourself to assume that an answer is being called
> > for; is expected to be forthcoming.
> >
> > .. PURELY ASSUMED. No answer is expected. No answer is
> > necessary.
> >
> > Why is the sky, blue? ... DON'T THINK about the answer.
> >
> > Does Fred Flinstone like tortillas? ... DON'T THINK about the answer.
> >
> > Who am I? ... DON'T THINK about the answer.
> >
> > The answer does NOT necessarily "follow" from a question. For several
> > reasons, we have a very compelling habit of assuming and insisting that
> > it should follow.
> >
> > A conscious effort can be made to withold any consideration of the
> > 'Answer to a question'.
> >
> > Our natural tendency is to move forward in thought; to tunnel into the
> > focus of our awareness... or "Answer the question".
> >
> > No need.
> >
> > --------------
> >
> > Returning to the 2 points of view.
> >
> > Perspective "A" ... RL cannot let go.
> > Perspective "B" ... RL must let go.
> >
> > I can look at each perspective as asking a question and thence
> > immediately "Answering it"
> >
> > As in ...
> >
> > Perspective "A" ... RL cannot let go.
> >
> > Rolled out and speaking to self:
> >
> > a) Question: "Here is the situation with my former psychiatrist.. ...
> > pain, agnony, *choking*, anger ..."
> >
> > b) Answer: "This is really how it is. It's important. I cannot
> > write it off "
> >
> >
> > * * *
> >
> > Perspective "B" ... RL must let go.
> >
> > Rolled out and speaking to "self" as a friend who knows RL ...
> >
> > a) Question: "RL is saying that his former psychiatrist is the source
> > of his problems. .. RL is mired, stuck, emotional, re-acting
> > intensely, strained, utterly stuck. RL doesn't make sense. He is
> > preoccupied with his ex psychiatrist.
> >
> > b) Answer: "This is a bad scene. Remaining stuck is going to drag him
> > into certain disaster. He is irrational. .. He is behaving like
> > someone who is mentally unwell. He needs help. He needs to be led or
> > coerced out of this certain loosing situation. He must accept it. He
> > must be convinced.
> >
> > * * *
> >
> > In both perspectives A and B, the question is the "observing of the
> > situation " ...
> >
> > In RL's case ( Perspective "A" ... RL cannot let go. ) it is looking
> > back at his former psychiatrist. It's looking at how people view RL
> > and his response to his former psychiatrist. It's looking at how people
> > view his former psychiatrist.
> >
> > In the case of those who perceive RL ( Perspective "B" ... RL must let
> > go. ) RL is struggling and failing while expert, caring, honest and
> > effective people are trying to help him.
> >
> > I shall refrain from describing the follow on; the "Answer".
> >
> > Perspective "A" ... RL cannot let go.
> >
> > I can appreciate that others perceive this of me. I can accept that
> > they don't undertand.
> >
> > .. I CAN PARK THE "THIOUGHT" FOR NOW. ... I do not need to follow
> > through on it at this instant. .. I do NOT need to draw any
> > conclusions at this moment.
> >
> > IN FACT, drawing conclusions just makes life very difficult for me; ..
> > just gives me a headache. *Hopefully*, I will be better able to
> > address the situation in the future.
> >
>
> Meanwhile, back in the real world----one or more narcissistic MHP's
> psychologically injured Virginia, destroyed her ability to work and
> support herself in the style she was accustomed to, got her evicted
> and homeless, defamed her as delusional to erode her identiy, got
> her violently and forced medicated------and, at present, these
> violent prone narcissists are poised to begin claiming they live in
> *Great Fear* of her to obtain a corrupt court order to have her removed
> from her neighborhood of 20 years----if not ordering her to leave the
> State of NY.
>
> You would be 100% correct in suggesting that Virginia is reacting to
> the psychopathic zero sum game being played against Virginia---by
> playing a victim psychpathic zero sum game of her own
> IF----antidepressants and stimulants weren't being DENIED her.
>
> But, the freinds of the narcisistic MHP's who created this WORM hole
> for Virginai are denying Virginia the antidepressants and/or stimulants
> she requires to have the initiative (as opposed to apathy) to do
> something to work her way out of the WORM hole the Narcissists created
> for her.
>
> YOU are not being denied antidepressants or stimulants ---so your and
> virginia's circumstances are NOT comparable---(unless I am mistaken
> about the fact you aren't being denied antidepressants or stimulants.)
We are dealing with ' DESCRIPTIONS ', Linda ...
The mistake that everyone makes is to automatically " assume " that
descriptions must be
decided or acted upon ...
Taking that which is ' PERCIEVED ' and USING the
SIGNIFICANCE-OF-THAT-PERCEPTION for
<<more >> than is 'sensible' is the PROBLEM, here !
Words are descriptions. ... observations
There are endless inferences which can be drawn.
Each inference is it's own hyperfocus.
The tragic mistake is to take it more seriously and/or sincerely than
it deserves.
.. It is the quitessential human tragedy.
It is utter deadly. ... easily preventable. ... tragic, needless
wastage and grief
... on ALL SIDES.
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Date: 15 Jun 2006 08:00:51
From: Sue me for posting facts
Subject: Re: == Twittering One ... Hidden Considerations ==
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Raving Loonie wrote:
> O.K. I shall try and *explain*, just ONE THING in this thread. ( To
> start ... )
>
> I will talk about my own situation, as it is easier for you to be
> objective about it without emotional involvent.
>
> I also have an issue with the ' performance ' of one of my former
> psychiatrists. The context is similar to T1's in one sense and just
> as bad as T1's in another; yet opposite sense. It amounts to the same
> situation, overall.
>
> For very good reasons, I am told to "give it up"; to walk away from it
> ...
> Actually, I would be delighted to walk away.
>
> I cannot afford to do, so. Impossible.
>
> I am caught in this impossible bind. ... If I surrender, which is
> impossible for me, anyhow ... I could move forward in life. ... I
> cannot surrender. .. I cannot let go; even if my life depended upon
> it.
>
> People in my life, wisely urge me to "surrender". I am being
> unreasonable. It is futile. My course of action is a recipe for
> disaster.
>
> I REJECT THAT ... The person who is advising me is ramming their
> opinion down my throat. That person is demanding that I eat their
> words and accept it as the "truth", as reality, as final.
>
> Sorry. No. I cannot. .. To do so, would destroy my sense of self ...
> It would destroy my future. Sorry. No.
>
> ==============================
>
>
> What I have described is a 'Perceptual Illusion'. ... It is NOT how
> reality "is". It is how reality is perceived to be by "me", the Raving
> Loonie.
>
> Those who view me, perceive me to be stubborn, stuck, .. acting
> tragically and catrastrophically in my own regard. Yep.
>
> They are also being held prisoner by the SAME perceptual illusion that
> keeps me captive.
>
> What is the maddening illusion? ... Why is it happening? ... What can
> be done about it?
>
> Step #1 ... Why is it happening?
>
> When you can appreciate what is happening, you can recognize the
> situation. ... Eventually, you can escape the trap.
>
> Perspective "A" ... RL cannot let go.
> Perspective "B" ... RL must let go.
>
> There is a contradiction, here.
>
> Remember the T. V. game show, Jeopardy?
>
> A game of Petitio Princippi ( Begging the question )
>
> Here is the answer. What is the question? ... it is considered to be
> a logical falicy.
>
> ------------------------
>
> Perspective "A" ... RL cannot let go.
> Perspective "B" ... RL must let go.
>
> ... is a perceptual falicy. It is a trick of perspective; a trick
> of perception.
>
> The answer is being 'begged'. It is unecessary to provide an answer,
> NOW.
>
>
> Becoming more discursive, here ...
>
> A person asks you a question.
>
> Example: Does Clinton deserve to be president for his philandering
> with Monica Lewinski ?
>
> Yes or No?
>
> I WANT AN ANSWER. .. A simple yes or no. It's an important question.
> The answer exists.
>
> Yes or No, please. ... I will listen to nothing else, right now.
>
> And you have been 'suckered in' without even realizing it. You have
> been ticked; ... fooled.
>
>
> Look what happened!
>
> As soon as a person asks you a question directly ... You "know" that
> they expect an answer. You know that an answer exists and you are
> being called upon to provide the answer.
>
> Does Clinton deserve to be president for his philandering with Monica
> Lewinski ?
>
> Yes or No?
>
> Why do you *need* to answer the question?
>
> Why is the sky, blue?
> Does Fred Flinstone like tortillas?
> Who am I?
>
> If you are reading what I write and are being receptive to me; you are
> allowing me to steer and direct your "awareness"; your attention.
>
> You are allowing me to do that ... You are allowing me to compell you
> to provide an answer to a question.
>
> Or you are allowing yourself to assume that an answer is being called
> for; is expected to be forthcoming.
>
> .. PURELY ASSUMED. No answer is expected. No answer is
> necessary.
>
> Why is the sky, blue? ... DON'T THINK about the answer.
>
> Does Fred Flinstone like tortillas? ... DON'T THINK about the answer.
>
> Who am I? ... DON'T THINK about the answer.
>
> The answer does NOT necessarily "follow" from a question. For several
> reasons, we have a very compelling habit of assuming and insisting that
> it should follow.
>
> A conscious effort can be made to withold any consideration of the
> 'Answer to a question'.
>
> Our natural tendency is to move forward in thought; to tunnel into the
> focus of our awareness... or "Answer the question".
>
> No need.
>
> --------------
>
> Returning to the 2 points of view.
>
> Perspective "A" ... RL cannot let go.
> Perspective "B" ... RL must let go.
>
> I can look at each perspective as asking a question and thence
> immediately "Answering it"
>
> As in ...
>
> Perspective "A" ... RL cannot let go.
>
> Rolled out and speaking to self:
>
> a) Question: "Here is the situation with my former psychiatrist.. ...
> pain, agnony, *choking*, anger ..."
>
> b) Answer: "This is really how it is. It's important. I cannot
> write it off "
>
>
> * * *
>
> Perspective "B" ... RL must let go.
>
> Rolled out and speaking to "self" as a friend who knows RL ...
>
> a) Question: "RL is saying that his former psychiatrist is the source
> of his problems. .. RL is mired, stuck, emotional, re-acting
> intensely, strained, utterly stuck. RL doesn't make sense. He is
> preoccupied with his ex psychiatrist.
>
> b) Answer: "This is a bad scene. Remaining stuck is going to drag him
> into certain disaster. He is irrational. .. He is behaving like
> someone who is mentally unwell. He needs help. He needs to be led or
> coerced out of this certain loosing situation. He must accept it. He
> must be convinced.
>
> * * *
>
> In both perspectives A and B, the question is the "observing of the
> situation " ...
>
> In RL's case ( Perspective "A" ... RL cannot let go. ) it is looking
> back at his former psychiatrist. It's looking at how people view RL
> and his response to his former psychiatrist. It's looking at how people
> view his former psychiatrist.
>
> In the case of those who perceive RL ( Perspective "B" ... RL must let
> go. ) RL is struggling and failing while expert, caring, honest and
> effective people are trying to help him.
>
> I shall refrain from describing the follow on; the "Answer".
>
> Perspective "A" ... RL cannot let go.
>
> I can appreciate that others perceive this of me. I can accept that
> they don't undertand.
>
> .. I CAN PARK THE "THIOUGHT" FOR NOW. ... I do not need to follow
> through on it at this instant. .. I do NOT need to draw any
> conclusions at this moment.
>
> IN FACT, drawing conclusions just makes life very difficult for me; ..
> just gives me a headache. *Hopefully*, I will be better able to
> address the situation in the future.
>
Meanwhile, back in the real world----one or more narcissistic MHP's
psychologically injured Virginia, destroyed her ability to work and
support herself in the style she was accustomed to, got her evicted
and homeless, defamed her as delusional to erode her identiy, got
her violently and forced medicated------and, at present, these
violent prone narcissists are poised to begin claiming they live in
*Great Fear* of her to obtain a corrupt court order to have her removed
from her neighborhood of 20 years----if not ordering her to leave the
State of NY.
You would be 100% correct in suggesting that Virginia is reacting to
the psychopathic zero sum game being played against Virginia---by
playing a victim psychpathic zero sum game of her own
IF----antidepressants and stimulants weren't being DENIED her.
But, the freinds of the narcisistic MHP's who created this WORM hole
for Virginai are denying Virginia the antidepressants and/or stimulants
she requires to have the initiative (as opposed to apathy) to do
something to work her way out of the WORM hole the Narcissists created
for her.
YOU are not being denied antidepressants or stimulants ---so your and
virginia's circumstances are NOT comparable---(unless I am mistaken
about the fact you aren't being denied antidepressants or stimulants.)
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