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Date: 01 Nov 2006 20:02:53
From: qquito
Subject: What's Going on in My Sprained Foot?
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Hello, All: I am in mid-fourties and male, and I tripped over a rope four weeks ago and fell and got my right foot sprained. The pain in the first few minutes was excruciating, and after a short while, I could walk very painfully with very short steps. I first thought the pain would probably be gone after one night of sleep, and it did NOT, and the entire foot got swollen, and I could hardly put it into my shoe. I then visited my primary care physician who suggested that I have it X-rayed, which I did, and then see an orthopedicist with the X-ray. However, the appointment with the orthopedicist was NOT until SEVEN days after my accident. And by this time, the swell had nearly disappeared, and the pain was much weak and I could walk much better. So I decided to cancel the appointment with the orthopedicist. Beginning from the THIRD week, however, it seemed the improvement came to a standstill. I could walk nearly normally, and in the middle of the back of the foot there appeared to be a small ridge, and the middle section of the back was still visibly swollen--by comparing to the good left foot. There was still pain if I attempted actions more than unsual walk. Now it is FOUR weeks since the injury. I may or may not have experienced further improvement in the fourth week, though sometimes I felt as if I was getting better, but then the slight pain and swell are still there, and it is not capable of as much mobility as my good left foot. Now the question. According to your experience and/or knowledge, does this sound like a normal case of sprained foot in the course of FOUR weeks? Could there be bone fracture? Should I visit the orthopedicist after all? (Though I have medicial insurances, it is not a pleasant thing to see a doctor as it takes lots of time and travel and also copayments.) Thanks for reading and replying! --Roland
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Date: 01 Nov 2006 20:57:00
From: Jason Johnson
Subject: Re: What's Going on in My Sprained Foot?
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In article <1162440173.165652.261310@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com >, "qquito" <qquito@hotmail.com > wrote: Hello, All: I am in mid-fourties and male, and I tripped over a rope four weeks ago and fell and got my right foot sprained. The pain in the first few minutes was excruciating, and after a short while, I could walk very painfully with very short steps. I first thought the pain would probably be gone after one night of sleep, and it did NOT, and the entire foot got swollen, and I could hardly put it into my shoe. I then visited my primary care physician who suggested that I have it X-rayed, which I did, and then see an orthopedicist with the X-ray. However, the appointment with the orthopedicist was NOT until SEVEN days after my accident. And by this time, the swell had nearly disappeared, and the pain was much weak and I could walk much better. So I decided to cancel the appointment with the orthopedicist. Beginning from the THIRD week, however, it seemed the improvement came to a standstill. I could walk nearly normally, and in the middle of the back of the foot there appeared to be a small ridge, and the middle section of the back was still visibly swollen--by comparing to the good left foot. There was still pain if I attempted actions more than unsual walk. Now it is FOUR weeks since the injury. I may or may not have experienced further improvement in the fourth week, though sometimes I felt as if I was getting better, but then the slight pain and swell are still there, and it is not capable of as much mobility as my good left foot. Now the question. According to your experience and/or knowledge, does this sound like a normal case of sprained foot in the course of FOUR weeks? Could there be bone fracture? Should I visit the orthopedicist after all? (Though I have medicial insurances, it is not a pleasant thing to see a doctor as it takes lots of time and travel and also copayments.) Thanks for reading and replying! --Roland ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Roland, If I were in your shoes, I would see the orthopedist to rule in or rule out a bone fracture. If you do decide to see the orthopedist, call the office staff and let them know about the X-Ray so they can have it available when you arrive for the appointment. Jason ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 13:02:33
From: Mikkel Munk-Jensen
Subject: Re: What's Going on in My Sprained Foot?
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"Jason Johnson" <jason@nospam.com > skrev i en meddelelse news:jason-0111062057000001@66-52-22-65.lsan.pw-dia.impulse.net... > In article <1162440173.165652.261310@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>, > "qquito" <qquito@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Hello, All: > > I am in mid-fourties and male, and I tripped over a rope four weeks ago > and fell and got my right foot sprained. The pain in the first few > minutes was excruciating, and after a short while, I could walk very > painfully with very short steps. > > I first thought the pain would probably be gone after one night of > sleep, and it did NOT, and the entire foot got swollen, and I could > hardly put it into my shoe. > > I then visited my primary care physician who suggested that I have it > X-rayed, which I did, and then see an orthopedicist with the X-ray. > However, the appointment with the orthopedicist was NOT until SEVEN > days after my accident. And by this time, the swell had nearly > disappeared, and the pain was much weak and I could walk much better. > So I decided to cancel the appointment with the orthopedicist. > > Beginning from the THIRD week, however, it seemed the improvement came > to a standstill. I could walk nearly normally, and in the middle of the > back of the foot there appeared to be a small ridge, and the middle > section of the back was still visibly swollen--by comparing to the good > left foot. There was still pain if I attempted actions more than unsual > walk. > > Now it is FOUR weeks since the injury. I may or may not have > experienced further improvement in the fourth week, though sometimes I > felt as if I was getting better, but then the slight pain and swell are > still there, and it is not capable of as much mobility as my good left > foot. > > Now the question. According to your experience and/or knowledge, does > this sound like a normal case of sprained foot in the course of FOUR > weeks? Could there be bone fracture? Should I visit the orthopedicist > after all? > > (Though I have medicial insurances, it is not a pleasant thing to see a > doctor as it takes lots of time and travel and also copayments.) > > Thanks for reading and replying! > > --Roland > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Roland, > If I were in your shoes, I would see the orthopedist to rule in or rule > out a bone fracture. If you do decide to see the orthopedist, call the > office staff and let them know about the X-Ray so they can have it > available when you arrive for the appointment. > Jason > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Mate I agree on going to the orthopedist just to make sure. That being said, a sprained foot does take a while. Especially when you start walking on it straight away without giving it the proper rest. That will extend the pain and time for recovery in a bad way. Ive sprained a foot a few times and four weeks does not seem like to long to me, having in mind that you didnt give it the proper rest. Remember to train your foot after! If you slack with your recovery training you will only hurt yourself!!!
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 10:56:25
From: Lord Slime
Subject: Re: What's Going on in My Sprained Foot?
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"qquito" <qquito@hotmail.com > wrote in message > I first thought the pain would probably be gone after one night of > sleep, and it did NOT, and the entire foot got swollen, and I could > hardly put it into my shoe. Never had a sprained ankle before, eh? Go ask a basketball player; this is common/expected/normal. [snip] > Now the question. According to your experience and/or knowledge, does > this sound like a normal case of sprained foot in the course of FOUR > weeks? You keep saying a "sprained foot", do you mean sprained ankle or is the pain in the foot area? A sprained "foot" would be unusual. > Could there be bone fracture? Yes. > Should I visit the orthopedicist after all? Yes. Four weeks is nothing for a bad sprain, and yes, it certainly could be fractured as well. I've been there, done that. So far, you've been given lots of bad advice. To wit: > > A sprain is really a tear. In some ways it's worse than a bone > > fracture, which you almost certainly do not have. It can take months to > > fully recover and it may be weaker forever. You need to wait until you > > can use it and then tape it heavily to start. Don't tape it. Walk on even surfaces for short periods of time as long as there isn't sharp pain. "Good pain" which feels like stretching, is okay as long as you don't over-do it. When it aches, elevate it and keep it warm. > I agree with Bundy, and even if it is a fracture, after four weeks > theres usually not much that can be done about it. Bullshit. My fracture was detected and treated (surgically) several months after the injury. I had 100% recovery. > Wrap your foot with an ace bandage at night when you sleep to prevent > your foot from moving. Bullshit. Never tape your foot at night. It inhibits circulation and slows healing. If you foot hurts, elevate it. If the weight of the blankets hurts, build a tent out of pillows. > Try to limit the movement of your foot during > the day. That does not mean you CAN'T use your foot, just minimize > movement. Bullshit again. Move the foot as much as possible within the limits of light pain. It'll heal faster and have better mobility when you're done. > If the swelling and pain are of a level too high that you can't endure > it, take some Ibuprofin, as long as it won't interact with the drugs > you are currently taking. Not a good idea for the long term, or before using the ankle. I've found that elevation is as effective as analgesics in most cases, and will reduce the swelling. - Lord Slime
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 16:00:06
From: dcova
Subject: Re: What's Going on in My Sprained Foot?
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I got a small foot fracture in 1992 in a lead fall. The fracture healed and I was told that the foot would be okay. After 14 years I can walk and climb but my left foot is not what it used to be. It's always stiff in the morning and needs to be warmed up. Then it's okay through the day walking and climbing as long as I don't overdo, in which case it's painful the next day or so. I have a lump just below the ankle bone which I believe to be a snapped tendon which was never repaired. So maybe you have a broken tendon. Having a lump that doesnt go away sounds like busted tendon. Anywhoo, my experience. Dario "qquito" <qquito@hotmail.com > wrote in message news:1162440173.165652.261310@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... > Hello, All: > > I am in mid-fourties and male, and I tripped over a rope four weeks ago > and fell and got my right foot sprained. The pain in the first few > minutes was excruciating, and after a short while, I could walk very > painfully with very short steps. > > I first thought the pain would probably be gone after one night of > sleep, and it did NOT, and the entire foot got swollen, and I could > hardly put it into my shoe. > > I then visited my primary care physician who suggested that I have it > X-rayed, which I did, and then see an orthopedicist with the X-ray. > However, the appointment with the orthopedicist was NOT until SEVEN > days after my accident. And by this time, the swell had nearly > disappeared, and the pain was much weak and I could walk much better. > So I decided to cancel the appointment with the orthopedicist. > > Beginning from the THIRD week, however, it seemed the improvement came > to a standstill. I could walk nearly normally, and in the middle of the > back of the foot there appeared to be a small ridge, and the middle > section of the back was still visibly swollen--by comparing to the good > left foot. There was still pain if I attempted actions more than unsual > walk. > > Now it is FOUR weeks since the injury. I may or may not have > experienced further improvement in the fourth week, though sometimes I > felt as if I was getting better, but then the slight pain and swell are > still there, and it is not capable of as much mobility as my good left > foot. > > Now the question. According to your experience and/or knowledge, does > this sound like a normal case of sprained foot in the course of FOUR > weeks? Could there be bone fracture? Should I visit the orthopedicist > after all? > > (Though I have medicial insurances, it is not a pleasant thing to see a > doctor as it takes lots of time and travel and also copayments.) > > Thanks for reading and replying! > > --Roland >
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 07:37:19
From:
Subject: Re: What's Going on in My Sprained Foot?
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Al Bundy wrote: > qquito wrote: > > Hello, All: > > > > I am in mid-fourties and male, and I tripped over a rope four weeks ago > > and fell and got my right foot sprained. The pain in the first few > > minutes was excruciating, and after a short while, I could walk very > > painfully with very short steps. > > > > A sprain is really a tear. In some ways it's worse than a bone > fracture, which you almost certainly do not have. It can take months to > fully recover and it may be weaker forever. You need to wait until you > can use it and then tape it heavily to start. Go easy and avoid > mis-stepping. Cross country courses are more injury prone than a flat > surface. I agree with Bundy, and even if it is a fracture, after four weeks theres usually not much that can be done about it. See the doctor anyway, but most likely he/she will give you the advice below.... Wrap your foot with an ace bandage at night when you sleep to prevent your foot from moving. Try to limit the movement of your foot during the day. That does not mean you CAN'T use your foot, just minimize movement. If the swelling and pain are of a level too high that you can't endure it, take some Ibuprofin, as long as it won't interact with the drugs you are currently taking. And give it time to heel? Ha, like the pun? I have a question, Is the pain on the bottom of your foot near the front of the heel? or at the back of your foot near the top of your heel, below your Achilles tendon?
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 06:07:39
From: Al Bundy
Subject: Re: What's Going on in My Sprained Foot?
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qquito wrote: > Hello, All: > > I am in mid-fourties and male, and I tripped over a rope four weeks ago > and fell and got my right foot sprained. The pain in the first few > minutes was excruciating, and after a short while, I could walk very > painfully with very short steps. > A sprain is really a tear. In some ways it's worse than a bone fracture, which you almost certainly do not have. It can take months to fully recover and it may be weaker forever. You need to wait until you can use it and then tape it heavily to start. Go easy and avoid mis-stepping. Cross country courses are more injury prone than a flat surface.
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 20:29:55
From: qquito
Subject: Re: What's Going on in My Sprained Foot?
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Guffy: Thank you and all others for your kind and informative replies. My pain is somewhere between the toes and the ankle. When I am at rest and sleep, I do not quite feel the pain (except during the first week or so.) After some ajdustment in the early part of the day, I feel pretty good, and I can walk on flat surface at moderate speed with almost no pain. Only when I attempt to stand on my toes, do I feel some more pain, very bearable though. The slight swell is in the middle of the instep (I used the word "back" in my first post in place of "instep", which could be misleading. Sorry about that.) Thank you again. --Roland TheAmazingGuffy@gmail.com wrote: > ....... > I have a question, Is the pain on the bottom of your foot near the > front of the heel? or at the back of your foot near the top of your > heel, below your Achilles tendon?
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 14:47:59
From:
Subject: Re: What's Going on in My Sprained Foot?
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Lord Slime wrote: > "qquito" <qquito@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > I first thought the pain would probably be gone after one night of > > sleep, and it did NOT, and the entire foot got swollen, and I could > > hardly put it into my shoe. > > Never had a sprained ankle before, eh? Go ask a basketball > player; this is common/expected/normal. > > [snip] > > > Now the question. According to your experience and/or knowledge, does > > this sound like a normal case of sprained foot in the course of FOUR > > weeks? > > You keep saying a "sprained foot", do you mean sprained > ankle or is the pain in the foot area? A sprained "foot" would > be unusual. > > > Could there be bone fracture? > > Yes. > > > Should I visit the orthopedicist after all? > > Yes. Four weeks is nothing for a bad sprain, and yes, it certainly > could be fractured as well. I've been there, done that. > > So far, you've been given lots of bad advice. To wit: > > > > A sprain is really a tear. In some ways it's worse than a bone > > > fracture, which you almost certainly do not have. It can take months to > > > fully recover and it may be weaker forever. You need to wait until you > > > can use it and then tape it heavily to start. > > Don't tape it. Walk on even surfaces for short periods of > time as long as there isn't sharp pain. "Good pain" which > feels like stretching, is okay as long as you don't over-do > it. When it aches, elevate it and keep it warm. > > > I agree with Bundy, and even if it is a fracture, after four weeks > > theres usually not much that can be done about it. > Nice bedside manner sport, kiss your mother with that mouth. > Bullshit. My fracture was detected and treated (surgically) > several months after the injury. I had 100% recovery. > Then you probably had a displaced fracture that wasn't healed correctly, this does not sound like that. Just because something worked in your case does not mean it will work in someone elses. > > Wrap your foot with an ace bandage at night when you sleep to prevent > > your foot from moving. > > Bullshit. Never tape your foot at night. It inhibits circulation and > slows healing. If you foot hurts, elevate it. If the weight of > the blankets hurts, build a tent out of pillows. > Wrong, you are assuming it is a fracture. If he has a torn tendon or fascia then moving it will inhibit healing... Also I didn't say tape, I said ace bandage. > > Try to limit the movement of your foot during > > the day. That does not mean you CAN'T use your foot, just minimize > > movement. > > Bullshit again. Move the foot as much as possible within > the limits of light pain. It'll heal faster and have better > mobility when you're done. > Again, wrong, if it is tendon or fascia damage then putting undue stress on it will slow the healing process, NOT speed it up... > > If the swelling and pain are of a level too high that you can't endure > > it, take some Ibuprofin, as long as it won't interact with the drugs > > you are currently taking. > > Not a good idea for the long term, or before using the > ankle. I've found that elevation is as effective as analgesics > in most cases, and will reduce the swelling. > > - Lord Slime Lastly, you are wrong again.... anti-inflamitory useage is recommended for a damaged tendon. Tendonitis or Tendinopathy http://www.healthbanks.com/PatientPortal/Public/ArticlePromoted.aspx?ArticleID=HW5uh2113 Calcaneal fractures http://orthoinfo.aaos.org/fact/thr_report.cfm?Thread_ID=353&topcategory Do some research before you give bad advice!!!!!
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Date: 03 Nov 2006 04:06:24
From:
Subject: Re: What's Going on in My Sprained Foot?
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qquito wrote: > Guffy: Thank you and all others for your kind and informative replies. > > My pain is somewhere between the toes and the ankle. When I am at rest > and sleep, I do not quite feel the pain (except during the first week > or so.) After some ajdustment in the early part of the day, I feel > pretty good, and I can walk on flat surface at moderate speed with > almost no pain. Only when I attempt to stand on my toes, do I feel some > more pain, very bearable though. The slight swell is in the middle of > the instep (I used the word "back" in my first post in place of > "instep", which could be misleading. Sorry about that.) > > Thank you again. > > --Roland > > TheAmazingGuffy@gmail.com wrote: > > ....... > > I have a question, Is the pain on the bottom of your foot near the > > front of the heel? or at the back of your foot near the top of your > > heel, below your Achilles tendon? Sounds like you might have damaged your plantar fascia(not at the heel ,but in the center), which can been seen in the diagram below(the tendon that stretches from the heel to the ball of your foot.)... http://www.arthroscopy.com/sp09001.htm See your doctor to confirm that is, what it is, and he/she should recommend what to do. It doesn't sound like anything serious though....
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Date: 03 Nov 2006 15:09:49
From: qquito
Subject: Re: What's Going on in My Sprained Foot?
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Thank you again, Guffy, I appreciate your help. I will take care of it. --Roland TheAmazingGuffy@gmail.com wrote: > Sounds like you might have damaged your plantar fascia(not at the heel > ,but in the center), which can been seen in the diagram below(the > tendon that stretches from the heel to the ball of your foot.)... > > http://www.arthroscopy.com/sp09001.htm > ......
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