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Date: 14 Dec 2006 09:27:02
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Subject: What distance to run in training before a marathon?
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Hi, I'm training for my second marathon. Last time the furthest I ran
in training was 19 miles and I managed the race in just under 4 hours
(I'm 49). A number of people have suggested that I should run the full
26 miles before the day, maybe a few weeks prior, but others have said
no. What do you advise and why?
Billy
http://marathontrainingandnutrition.blogspot.com/
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Date: 15 Dec 2006 01:19:40
From: steve common
Subject: Re: What distance to run in training before a marathon?
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billy.milton@tesco.net wrote:
>Hi, I'm training for my second marathon. Last time the furthest I ran
>in training was 19 miles and I managed the race in just under 4 hours
>(I'm 49). A number of people have suggested that I should run the full
>26 miles before the day, maybe a few weeks prior, but others have said
>no. What do you advise and why?
Before your first marathon it may have been worth doing the distance (or
the time), for purely psychological reasons ie. I KNOW I can do it "on da
big day" cos I did it already. That's the main thing you'll get from that
kind of training run.
But you've done a marathon now. You KNOW that the distance is do-able;
that you won't keel over trying, that you can maintain a decent pace, that
you know just about when it'll hurt :-)
So running 26 miles as a preparation is supposed to help you in what way?
Ask your "advisors" what they think the point of it is. I reckon they
won't tell you anything useful :-)
So just do what you already did. Maybe 20 miles wouldn't kill you. Just
don't spend more than about (I insist on the "about" :-) 3:00 hours out on
the streets for training. More than that (I prefer to stay around 2:30
training time, with peaks at 2:40) and you will not only be getting
severely diminished returns from your training, you will also be making
your next training week unnecessarily difficult.
My 2 eurocents - others will probably (certainly!) disagree...
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 15:40:24
From: rick++
Subject: Re: What distance to run in training before a marathon?
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Did you run out of energy before finishing your first marathon?
About 2/3rds do at about the longest ditance they've trained.
Then they need to train a longer distance.
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Date: 15 Dec 2006 01:48:13
From: steve common
Subject: Re: What distance to run in training before a marathon?
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"rick++" <rick303@hotmail.com > wrote:
>Did you run out of energy before finishing your first marathon?
>About 2/3rds do at about the longest ditance they've trained.
I don't beleive they "run out of energy".
I expect they get the feeling it "now hurts more than I remember it ever
hurting in training", which makes them "lose it" at that point.
It is all in the mind. You can punch through 30% more than you did in
training IF you really want to. Those who don't really want to will fall
on the wayside and look for excuses like weather, lack of training etc
(see online survey about this)
Running 42k/26mi in training for a non-debut marathon will teach you
nothing more than how stupid it really is to do 42k/26mi as a marathon
training run.
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 17:44:02
From: D Stumpus
Subject: Re: What distance to run in training before a marathon?
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"steve common" <steven.common@wanadoo.fr > wrote
> Running 42k/26mi in training for a non-debut marathon will teach you
> nothing more than how stupid it really is to do 42k/26mi as a marathon
> training run.
This is precisely why I skipped over that awkward distance and now run a 50k
:-)
--
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 14:07:44
From: Al Bundy
Subject: Re: What distance to run in training before a marathon?
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billy.milton@tesco.net wrote:
> Hi, I'm training for my second marathon. Last time the furthest I ran
> in training was 19 miles and I managed the race in just under 4 hours
> (I'm 49). A number of people have suggested that I should run the full
> 26 miles before the day, maybe a few weeks prior, but others have said
> no. What do you advise and why?
>
> Billy
>
I think running the 26 mile distance before the race is counter
productive. Running 20 miles three to four weeks ahead is quite common.
My 35 year old neighbor ran only about 10 miles per week and still
managed to run 20 on a trial a month ahead of the marathon. Then he
rested a week. He ran the marathon in 4:11. Many people don't attempt
these long runs ahead of the day and do quite well. There's something
to be said for not leaving your fight in the gym.
One rule of thumb is that you can safely run three times your average
daily distance (over three months) so running 10 miles/day safely gets
you home.
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Date: 15 Dec 2006 02:13:26
From: wully-m
Subject: Re: What distance to run in training before a marathon?
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rick++ wrote:
> Did you run out of energy before finishing your first marathon?
> About 2/3rds do at about the longest ditance they've trained.
> Then they need to train a longer distance.
Hi Rick, I almost came to a stop at 1 mile further than I had trained
up to but I just ate an energy bar whilst walking for 100 yards, then
got going again. In the last 2 miles I really got a second wind (the
energy bar kicking in?) and covered the last 2.2 miles in just under 20
minutes which was pretty good for me.
http://marathontrainingandnutrition.blogspot.com/
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Date: 16 Dec 2006 02:28:58
From:
Subject: Re: What distance to run in training before a marathon?
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it is common that about 2 weeks before the race, just before you start
to taper, you should do your longest run which should not be longer
than 36km
there is no need and it is actually not productive to run more than
this distance especially if you are a beginner (not an ultramarathon
professional:)
event his is a generalization and your coach should determine if and
when you do this long run
the point about distances in training is not one single session but the
cumulative effect of many sessions
for example you can run intervals totalling 25k on saturday and a 30k
tempo on sunday and thats harder than a marathon but you avoided the
huge distance
so do not run more than 35-36k in training and after this run allow
minimum of 2 weeks to recover
www.ulabibu.com
On Dec 14, 7:27 pm, billy.mil...@tesco.net wrote:
> Hi, I'm training for my second marathon. Last time the furthest I ran
> in training was 19 miles and I managed the race in just under 4 hours
> (I'm 49). A number of people have suggested that I should run the full
> 26 miles before the day, maybe a few weeks prior, but others have said
> no. What do you advise and why?
>
> Billy
>
> http://marathontrainingandnutrition.blogspot.com/
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