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Date: 04 Sep 2006 08:07:25
From: Beginning runner
Subject: Week 3+ (take two) day 1
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Call today a step backwards; that means that on Wednesday, I'll have to
take two steps forwards.
On the third split, I could do only two minutes. I walked for three
minutes after that because my body and HRM both told me after two
minutes of walking that I wasn't ready yet to run. The fourth split was
2:40, just like Friday. I may have been able to go a bit further, but
my pace was 20:something mi/min, which is almost as slow as my walking
pace (26:15), so I stopped.
To recap
3 min run
3 min walk
3 min run
3 min walk
2 min jog
3 min walk
2:40 jog
Distance: 1.2 miles
Pace: 16:17 mi/min
I can think of two possibilities for the lowered. The first, but
unlikely, is that during the second run, I had to run through maybe 15
feet of water (length, the depth was maybe an inch or two) and got my
shoes and socks soaked.
The second, more likely, is that on Saturday, I was at a pool party and
spent a few hours in the pool playing various water sports (for the
dirty-minded, not that kind of water sports). My body ached Saturday
night and I had to take a pain killer to get to sleep. There were mild
aches Sunday, but I felt OK this morning. Even so, I may not have been
fully recovered.
Nevertheless, I'll be back out there Wednesday morning, trying
again--and I hope to succeed.
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Date: 04 Sep 2006 11:44:18
From: Mark
Subject: Re: Week 3+ (take two) day 1
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Keep at it! You seem to be doing very well. I've been doing the same as
you all year. It's my first year of consistent and programmed running,
and all my programs have been filled with repeat weeks and weeks off,
partly due to being a novice, partly due to occasionally getting too
aggressive and over-training. I try to keep myself in check by reminding
myself that my only concrete goal for this year is to finish a 10K race,
and not worry about my finishing time (though I will have a time
target). Time targets are for next year!!
Cheers,
Mark
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Date: 04 Sep 2006 10:08:15
From: Beginning runner
Subject: Re: Week 3+ (take two) day 1
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In article <QZqdneoSOdR91GHZnZ2dnUVZ_rCdnZ2d@magma.ca >,
Mark <thisisnotmy@emailaddress.com > wrote:
> Keep at it! You seem to be doing very well. I've been doing the same
> as you all year. It's my first year of consistent and programmed
> running, and all my programs have been filled with repeat weeks and
> weeks off, partly due to being a novice, partly due to occasionally
> getting too aggressive and over-training. I try to keep myself in
> check by reminding myself that my only concrete goal for this year is
> to finish a 10K race, and not worry about my finishing time (though I
> will have a time target). Time targets are for next year!!
Thanks. My goal is to run 5K, not necessarily in a race, not
necessarily by year's end, but to do it eventually. And, like you, I'm
not concerned about a finishing time.
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Date: 04 Sep 2006 19:09:31
From: Dot
Subject: Re: Week 3+ (take two) day 1
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Beginning runner wrote:
> Call today a step backwards; that means that on Wednesday, I'll have to
> take two steps forwards.
That happens occasionally. But you're making good forward progress on
the whole. Good job.
>
> On the third split, I could do only two minutes. I walked for three
> minutes after that because my body and HRM both told me after two
> minutes of walking that I wasn't ready yet to run. The fourth split was
> 2:40, just like Friday. I may have been able to go a bit further, but
> my pace was 20:something mi/min, which is almost as slow as my walking
> pace (26:15), so I stopped.
First, do what works for you. I know you like to be concerned about
specifics and don't want to confuse you, but just another thought for
consideration / rejection. I wouldn't worry about pace, especially
running pace relative to walking pace. I'd pay most attention to effort
(hrm or conversational effort) and time. When you're starting, you want
to run as much as you can *safely* so your body adapts to that motion.
It may be slower than your walking pace, but as that motion becomes more
familiar and your body strengthens, the pace will pick up without
increasing hr.
Trying to pay attention to time to switch between running and walking,
total time, your body, HRM, AND pace just seems like an information
overload to me and potentially a source of frustration. I usually just
listen to my body (breathing) and total time, and maybe total distance
and elevation gain, if they are part of that day's goals. BUT, I
recognize some people like the level of detail that you are using. Just
offering a different perspective.
Dot
--
"Magic rocks and roots - the ones that trip you but you can never find
afterwards" - Matt Carpenter
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Date: 04 Sep 2006 15:04:11
From: Beginning runner
Subject: Re: Week 3+ (take two) day 1
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In article <LR_Kg.20377$mY1.5474@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net >,
Dot <dot.h@#duh?att.net > wrote:
> First, do what works for you. I know you like to be concerned about
> specifics and don't want to confuse you, but just another thought for
> consideration / rejection. I wouldn't worry about pace, especially
> running pace relative to walking pace. I'd pay most attention to
> effort (hrm or conversational effort) and time.
I wasn't worrying about pace; I was stumbling along, just falling
forward and putting my other foot out to catch me and feeling like I was
at the end of endurance anyway. I doubt that even if I had not known my
pace, I would have stopped about then anyway.
> Trying to pay attention to time to switch between running and
> walking, total time, your body, HRM, AND pace just seems like an
> information overload to me and potentially a source of frustration.
I check those things periodically, and only when I think I need the
information. Like when I was coming up on the two-minute mark of the
third walk, I felt that I needed to walk some more, and then checked my
HRM just to see what it read; it was more of a confirmation than
anything else.
I don't give all of these inputs equal weight, and don't check them all
at the same frequency.
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