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Date: 04 Oct 2006 09:13:51
From: zakovic2@uwm.edu
Subject: Ways to Measure Physical Improvment


I am starting a project school and I am implementing a running program
for me and a few of my friends that have volunteered that is a good mix
of speed and distance that I got off of coolrunning.com, anyway, I need
a few more ways to measure physical improvement for this project before
the program starts in a few weeks. Right now the only ways I am
measuring improvement is recording resting heart rate (daily), blood
pressure (daily), weight (daily), and body fat % every 30 days (this is
a 90 day study). I was wondering if there were any other tests I could
use to measure the physical benefits of running that wouldn't cost me
hundreds in blood tests or anything like that. Please keep in mind
this is a class focusing on physical fitness, so I will only be
measuring the physical benefits of running.





 
Date: 04 Oct 2006 10:49:26
From: Ed Prochak
Subject: Re: Ways to Measure Physical Improvment



zakovic2@uwm.edu wrote:
> I am starting a project school and I am implementing a running program
> for me and a few of my friends that have volunteered that is a good mix
> of speed and distance that I got off of coolrunning.com, anyway, I need
> a few more ways to measure physical improvement for this project before
> the program starts in a few weeks. Right now the only ways I am
> measuring improvement is recording resting heart rate (daily), blood
> pressure (daily), weight (daily), and body fat % every 30 days (this is
> a 90 day study). I was wondering if there were any other tests I could
> use to measure the physical benefits of running that wouldn't cost me
> hundreds in blood tests or anything like that. Please keep in mind
> this is a class focusing on physical fitness, so I will only be
> measuring the physical benefits of running.

Well physical measurements for one. This is because weight change might
not show the simutaneous change of losing fat but gaining muscle. (I
see you have %body fat. Do you have equipment to measure it or are you
just using a pinch test?)

How about lung capacity? (a simple how long can you hold your breath
test?? )

how about heart conditioning? How much does the heart rate drop once
exercise ends? (dang! what's the name of that test??)

How about directly related running tests? Top speed for 100Meters?
Change in speed for a 5K?
indirect benefits: changes in weight lifted for leg press for example?

Heart stress test (need a trained professional for that. You didn't
mention what school, Highschool or college. Likely not a good choice
for a highschool project.) maybe a variation like increase in heart
rate between bottom and top of a set of stairs would be safe and
obviously a benefit.

HTH,
ed



  
Date: 04 Oct 2006 19:53:46
From: Piedmont Donald
Subject: Re: Ways to Measure Physical Improvment


"Ed Prochak" wrote:
> how about heart conditioning? How much does the heart rate drop once
> exercise ends? (dang! what's the name of that test??)

Ruffier test?
http://www.iherve.com/fitness/fitness_test.html

PD




 
Date: 04 Oct 2006 09:17:24
From: runsrealfast
Subject: Re: Ways to Measure Physical Improvment



zakovic2@uwm.edu wrote:
> I am starting a project school and I am implementing a running program
> for me and a few of my friends that have volunteered that is a good mix
> of speed and distance that I got off of coolrunning.com, anyway, I need
> a few more ways to measure physical improvement for this project before
> the program starts in a few weeks. Right now the only ways I am
> measuring improvement is recording resting heart rate (daily), blood
> pressure (daily), weight (daily), and body fat % every 30 days (this is
> a 90 day study). I was wondering if there were any other tests I could
> use to measure the physical benefits of running that wouldn't cost me
> hundreds in blood tests or anything like that. Please keep in mind
> this is a class focusing on physical fitness, so I will only be
> measuring the physical benefits of running.

I saw a study like yours done at my school (Bio 101 lab). The subjects
were tested every couple of weeks, similar to a race situation. Make
sure that the tests are always equal or they are worthless.

John



 
Date: 05 Oct 2006 08:33:55
From: runsrealfast
Subject: Re: Ways to Measure Physical Improvment


Just thought of another one, VO2 Max test...

John



 
Date: 06 Oct 2006 09:45:08
From: runsrealfast
Subject: Re: Ways to Measure Physical Improvment



Miss Anne Thrope wrote:
> That's OK, buttercup. Mental midgets aren't supposed to "get it."

ok troll



 
Date: 06 Oct 2006 09:42:55
From: Miss Anne Thrope
Subject: Re: Ways to Measure Physical Improvment


That's OK, buttercup. Mental midgets aren't supposed to "get it."



 
Date: 06 Oct 2006 08:20:14
From: runsrealfast
Subject: Re: Ways to Measure Physical Improvment



Miss Anne Thrope wrote:
> A jogger with friends.
>
> Yeah.......right.

I dont get it?



 
Date: 06 Oct 2006 09:21:03
From: Miss Anne Thrope
Subject: Re: Ways to Measure Physical Improvment


A jogger with friends.

Yeah.......right.



 
Date: 06 Oct 2006 19:59:16
From: Dominic Shields
Subject: Re: Ways to Measure Physical Improvment


On 4 2006 09:13:51 -0700, "zakovic2@uwm.edu" <zakovic2@uwm.edu >
wrote:

>I am starting a project school and I am implementing a running program
>for me and a few of my friends that have volunteered that is a good mix
>of speed and distance that I got off of coolrunning.com, anyway, I need
>a few more ways to measure physical improvement for this project before
>the program starts in a few weeks. Right now the only ways I am
>measuring improvement is recording resting heart rate (daily), blood
>pressure (daily), weight (daily), and body fat % every 30 days (this is
>a 90 day study). I was wondering if there were any other tests I could
>use to measure the physical benefits of running that wouldn't cost me
>hundreds in blood tests or anything like that. Please keep in mind
>this is a class focusing on physical fitness, so I will only be
>measuring the physical benefits of running.

Life Fitness treadmills have a submaximal VO2 test facility that just
requires a compatible heart rate monitor.

Or there's the Cooper Test http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooper_test

which it says correlates to VO2 Max
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VO2_max

Obviously you'll get 101 opinions on the usefulness of these tests but
they have to be more use than subjective estimation which worryingly
many people seem to think is the only method.