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Date: 13 Dec 2006 17:33:53
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Subject: Vegan Triathlete Blog


Vegan Triathlete Blog

I just decided to become a triathlete. It's going to be a little while
before my first triathlon (and hopefully a very long time until my last
one), and I plan on blogging about it the whole time. Check out the
blog that I just launched today:

http://vegantriathlete.info/

What do you think? Are you going to read it?

I've also added some forums to bring the triathlon community together.
Check them out too:

http://forums.vegantriathlete.info

P.S. I'm a vegan, that's the reason for the domain name.





 
Date: 14 Dec 2006 10:00:34
From: aeiouy
Subject: Re: Vegan Triathlete Blog


<vegantri@scotthughes.biz > wrote in message
news:1166060033.838421.245290@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com...
> Vegan Triathlete Blog
>
> I just decided to become a triathlete. It's going to be a little while
> before my first triathlon (and hopefully a very long time until my last
> one), and I plan on blogging about it the whole time. Check out the
> blog that I just launched today:
>
> http://vegantriathlete.info/
>
> What do you think? Are you going to read it?
I doubt it...Not saying this is true of you but in my experience vegans tend
to be self-righteous and preachy about what people should and shouldn't eat

>
> I've also added some forums to bring the triathlon community together.
> Check them out too:
>
> http://forums.vegantriathlete.info
>
> P.S. I'm a vegan, that's the reason for the domain name.
>



  
Date: 14 Dec 2006 12:31:35
From: Doug Freese
Subject: Re: Vegan Triathlete Blog



"aeiouy" <aeiouy@vowels.com > wrote in message
news:6h9gh.68557$si3.58237@tornado.socal.rr.com...
>> What do you think? Are you going to read it?
> I doubt it...Not saying this is true of you but in my experience
> vegans tend to be self-righteous and preachy about what people should
> and shouldn't eat

If one is vegan with the notion that eating animals is evil as in the
PETA pests, then you get the preachy folks. If it's a healthy lifestyle
it's quieter. With the recent E-coli outbreak I wonder anymore what the
hell is safe to eat. Sure organic is a great concept, but always wonder
who, if anyone, does the verification.

To train as a vegan is nothing new and other than needing some extra B12
and getting a balance of protein, will be just fine and maybe healthier
than some of carnivores. I don't know what endurance tris serve for food
but don't plan to ask each aid station volunteer "is food-X vegan?"


>> I've also added some forums to bring the triathlon community
>> together.

More apt to get a lot of readers if it's gizmo related. Find a way to
shave a tenth of an ounce from a pedal or tire and you will become a
hero.

-DF






   
Date: 14 Dec 2006 21:41:07
From: Dot
Subject: Re: Vegan Triathlete Blog


Doug Freese wrote:

> Sure organic is a great concept, but always wonder
> who, if anyone, does the verification.
>

I think it may be like most government inspections. (I'll leave that to
your imagination.) There is a process of certification to go through,
which the research farm is working on for a plot of land where they can
do research to help the organic producers.

There's health and safety issues with both organic and non-organic
production. Given the price of fresh vegetables up here, I've been
considering (not seriously, since that's where I do my barefoot drills)
putting my garden back in. At least I'll know what *I* did to them.

Dot

--
"If we reach all our goals, we are not setting them high enough."
- Matt Carpenter



    
Date: 15 Dec 2006 00:36:23
From: Doug Freese
Subject: Re: Vegan Triathlete Blog



"Dot" <dot.h@#duh?att.net > wrote in message
news:Txjgh.492643$QZ1.465669@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> There's health and safety issues with both organic and non-organic
> production. Given the price of fresh vegetables up here, I've been
> considering (not seriously, since that's where I do my barefoot
> drills) putting my garden back in. At least I'll know what *I* did to
> them.

And why you you don't want me to come visit. :)

-doug




 
Date: 14 Dec 2006 12:57:17
From:
Subject: Re: Vegan Triathlete Blog


Doug Freese wrote:

> With the recent E-coli outbreak I wonder anymore what
> the hell is safe to eat.

I just saw this the other day:

Vegetables nearly as dangerous as under-cooked meat, study says
<http://www.startribune.com/484/story/870246.html >

Over the last 5 years:
Raw veggies: 19,000 sick or dead
Bad meat: 22,600 sick or dead
Bad seafood: < 3000 sick or dead



  
Date: 15 Dec 2006 21:30:01
From: Craig Pennington
Subject: Re: Vegan Triathlete Blog


mk_reef@yahoo.com wrote:
[snip]
> Over the last 5 years:
> Raw veggies: 19,000 sick or dead
> Bad meat: 22,600 sick or dead
> Bad seafood: < 3000 sick or dead

That's it, then. I'm sticking to bad seafood.

Cheers,
Craig

--
Corollary to Clarke's Third Law:
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently
advanced.


 
Date: 15 Dec 2006 14:34:18
From: Charlie Pendejo
Subject: Re: Vegan Triathlete Blog


Craig Pennington wrote:
> mk_reef@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Raw veggies: 19,000 sick or dead
> > Bad meat: 22,600 sick or dead
> > Bad seafood: < 3000 sick or dead
>
> That's it, then. I'm sticking to bad seafood.

Mezcal's in Brooklyn Heights, on Atlantic Ave. Call ahead to make sure
fish tacos are a daily special.



 
Date: 15 Dec 2006 22:09:53
From: Sean
Subject: Re: Vegan Triathlete Blog


Sure, I'll check it out occasionally. Good luck with the triathloning.
Have you looked into different training ideas much?

By the way, many pure runners tend not to like triathletes much!

Cheers!
-Sean.

vegantri@scotthughes.biz a =E9crit :

> Vegan Triathlete Blog
>
> I just decided to become a triathlete. It's going to be a little while
> before my first triathlon (and hopefully a very long time until my last
> one), and I plan on blogging about it the whole time. Check out the
> blog that I just launched today:
>
> http://vegantriathlete.info/
>
> What do you think? Are you going to read it?
>
> I've also added some forums to bring the triathlon community together.
> Check them out too:
>
> http://forums.vegantriathlete.info
>=20
> P.S. I'm a vegan, that's the reason for the domain name.



  
Date: 16 Dec 2006 11:52:03
From: Doug Freese
Subject: Re: Vegan Triathlete Blog



"Sean" <schester@uvic.ca > wrote in message
news:1166249393.828983.121290@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
Sure, I'll check it out occasionally. Good luck with the triathloning.
Have you looked into different training ideas much?

> By the way, many pure runners tend not to like triathletes much!

Now Sean, that's not true. Some of us like to poke fun because of their
almost fanatical preoccupation with hardware be it bikes, HRM, GPS etc
etc. I get a kick out of the rookies with multi-thousand dollar bikes,
shirts blazoned with hype and sponsors, aerodynamic helmets and a wrist
device which tells them when to excrete when they can barely shift the
gears.

It's a great sport! I'd be willing to bet that the order of finish would
not change one iota if they all rode the same Huffy bikes. OTOH, if you
took away their HRM on race day they would massively implode having no
idea how fast/slow to bike or run. Total mechanical dependency and zero
internal feel.

There are pure runners with the same HRM dependency but they are much
fewer.


-Doug





 
Date: 17 Dec 2006 14:17:58
From: Sean
Subject: Re: Vegan Triathlete Blog


:-D Perhaps if the RD's provided standardised bikes to the athletes,
it wouldn't just be Western nations competing.

Have you seen HRM-dependent runners wearing their gadgets in a race?
Come to think of it, any guys I've seen training with HRM's seem to
shed them for feel on the big morning. I'm not sure what provokes the
day-long change of heart...

GPS's are new to me. How do they "aid" one's performance, provided
that the course marshalls know the route?

Cheers,
-Sean.

Doug Freese a =E9crit :

> Now Sean, that's not true. Some of us like to poke fun because of their
> almost fanatical preoccupation with hardware be it bikes, HRM, GPS etc
> etc. I get a kick out of the rookies with multi-thousand dollar bikes,
> shirts blazoned with hype and sponsors, aerodynamic helmets and a wrist
> device which tells them when to excrete when they can barely shift the
> gears.
>
> It's a great sport! I'd be willing to bet that the order of finish would
> not change one iota if they all rode the same Huffy bikes. OTOH, if you
> took away their HRM on race day they would massively implode having no
> idea how fast/slow to bike or run. Total mechanical dependency and zero
> internal feel.
>
> There are pure runners with the same HRM dependency but they are much
> fewer.
>=20
>=20
> -Doug



  
Date: 17 Dec 2006 23:22:28
From: Beginning runner
Subject: Re: Vegan Triathlete Blog


In article <1166393878.900883.181450@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com >,
"Sean" <schester@uvic.ca > wrote:

> GPS's are new to me. How do they "aid" one's performance, provided
> that the course marshalls know the route?

One way is that they provide continual feedback as to one's pace,
thereby helping the runner maintain a steady pace.


  
Date: 18 Dec 2006 01:42:51
From: Doug Freese
Subject: Re: Vegan Triathlete Blog



"Sean" <schester@uvic.ca > wrote in message
news:1166393878.900883.181450@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> GPS's are new to me. How do they "aid" one's performance, provided
> that the course marshalls know the route?

I don't know what info is displayed on the screen as you run vs. what is
saved and downloaded later. One of my weekend running friends sent me
the a snapshot of the data from our run last Saturday. The mileage and
the elevation recorded seemed in line with what I expected but never
bother to verify. What I really liked was the elevation changes which is
most important to me. It had the run at 12.1 miles and almost 3,000 feet
of up and respective down. I knew it was a hilly course but did not
think it had 3k. The runs only get longer and hillier.

So unless you get instant feedback allowing you slow or speed up during
a race, I see it as an aid knowing what effort/course. Will I go and
buy one, no way!

-Doug




   
Date: 17 Dec 2006 23:23:10
From: Beginning runner
Subject: Re: Vegan Triathlete Blog


In article <vmmhh.32330$tb6.3724@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com >,
"Doug Freese" <dfreese@hvc.rr.com > wrote:

> So unless you get instant feedback allowing you slow or speed up
> during a race,

It does.


    
Date: 18 Dec 2006 12:01:27
From: Doug Freese
Subject: Re: Vegan Triathlete Blog



"Beginning runner" <beginning_runner@cox.net > wrote in message
news:beginning_runner-32302E.23231017122006@news.east.cox.net...
> In article <vmmhh.32330$tb6.3724@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com>,
> "Doug Freese" <dfreese@hvc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> So unless you get instant feedback allowing you slow or speed up
>> during a race,
>
> It does.

Good. Use it to find a pace and then leave it home or you'll never learn
to run without the crutch.

-DF




     
Date: 18 Dec 2006 12:03:03
From: Beginning runner
Subject: Re: Vegan Triathlete Blog


In article <rqvhh.32359$tb6.20288@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com >,
"Doug Freese" <dfreese@hvc.rr.com > wrote:

> >> So unless you get instant feedback allowing you slow or speed up
> >> during a race,
> >
> > It does.
>
> Good. Use it to find a pace and then leave it home or you'll never
> learn to run without the crutch.

Most of the time, I just set it to beep at the end of whatever distance
I chose for that particular run, and to record lap data. Then I don't
look at it until it beeps, and I turn it off.


 
Date: 18 Dec 2006 10:42:31
From: Sean
Subject: Re: Vegan Triathlete Blog


Yeah, that does sound kinda cool if somebody else brought it along.
But was he able to keep a good signal for the entire run? I once
jogged a favourite trail run of mine with a friend's GPS unit to get an
idea of how slowly I really did climb some of the hills. When I
returned home at the end, I'd completed a whopping 2.5hr 3k run! With
all the tree coverage, varying speeds and elevation, and overcast sky,
the GPS unit clearly struggled to maintain a consistent signal. (Best
of all, the elevation chart consisted of several 90 degree verticals!)


Cheers,
-Sean.


Doug Freese wrote:
> "Sean" <schester@uvic.ca> wrote in message
> news:1166393878.900883.181450@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > GPS's are new to me. How do they "aid" one's performance, provided
> > that the course marshalls know the route?
>
> I don't know what info is displayed on the screen as you run vs. what is
> saved and downloaded later. One of my weekend running friends sent me
> the a snapshot of the data from our run last Saturday. The mileage and
> the elevation recorded seemed in line with what I expected but never
> bother to verify. What I really liked was the elevation changes which is
> most important to me. It had the run at 12.1 miles and almost 3,000 feet
> of up and respective down. I knew it was a hilly course but did not
> think it had 3k. The runs only get longer and hillier.
>
> So unless you get instant feedback allowing you slow or speed up during
> a race, I see it as an aid knowing what effort/course. Will I go and
> buy one, no way!
>
> -Doug