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Date: 26 Apr 2006 10:22:06
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Subject: Upper thigh and hip pain


I have been runnine for about 4 years now, nothing for marathons, but
in the process I have managed to lose about 30 pounds. I read
somewhere that sometimes if the muscles in the leg are not balanced in
strength, it can cause this type of pain resulting from uphill running,
and since we moved that is the only thing that has changed. Two months
ago I began to have a lot of pain in my thigh area which started out in
the hip joint of my left leg. It feels like there may be a tendon that
has been torn or something. The joint area of my hip does not hurt any
more, but I still have considerable pain in my thigh. I have had to
stop running which has been very discouraging for me because now the
pounds are creeping back up and I have worked too long and hard to
achieve the fitness level that I have. I am looking for something that
will get me back out there and back into the shape that I was before
the injury. Is there any such thing as an ace type bandage that can be
worn like a short? I have seen the compression shorts, bought a pair
and quite frankly am dissapointed by them, they seem to do nothing for
me. On a whim I decided to buy one of those ace bandages for the knee
to see if that would make things feel better, and it does to a point
but it doesnt fit the area very well. If anyone know anything that
will help me get back to running again I would be very happy : )

Thanks
Susan





 
Date: 26 Apr 2006 12:43:11
From:
Subject: Re: Upper thigh and hip pain


azucar_101 wrote:
> I read somewhere that sometimes if the muscles in the leg are
> not balanced in strength, it can cause this type of pain resulting
> from uphill running, and since we moved that is the only thing
> that has changed. Two months ago I began to have a lot of pain
> in my thigh area which started out in the hip joint of my left leg.
> It feels like there may be a tendon that has been torn or
> something.

You'll want to figure out what's wrong with more precision than "thigh
area hurts". It's very likely a condition with a name and which
zillions of runners have experienced, and which has some tried and true
remedies. If you're allergic to dors offices there's tons of info
on the web.

It's tough to offer generic advice without knowing what's wrong.

I will say this: downhills cause a lot more problems for more people
than the ups. Some combination of downhill miles, steepness, speed,
and surface (paved = pad) will put you over your personal injury
threshold, depending also on things like your form and how well inured
your muscles are to downhills (in other words, you train them to
tolerate downhills starting with small, infrequent doses).



  
Date: 27 Apr 2006 00:08:58
From: Tony S.
Subject: Re: Upper thigh and hip pain


<Charlie.Pendejo@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1146080591.426164.287820@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>snip<
> I will say this: downhills cause a lot more problems for more people
> than the ups. Some combination of downhill miles, steepness, speed,
> and surface (paved = pad) will put you over your personal injury
> threshold, depending also on things like your form and how well inured
> your muscles are to downhills (in other words, you train them to
> tolerate downhills starting with small, infrequent doses).

While this is probably true for many people because of the forces at work,
uphill running has caused me more trouble than downhill running in recent
years. The front of the hip area can get very stressed from uphill running.
I run a certain amount of hills every week, but when I did my first set of
hill repeats this year (only about 3k) the front of my hips were really sore
both during and after. I've found certain stretches essential to counteract
this.

-Tony




  
Date: 26 Apr 2006 22:01:16
From:
Subject: Re: Upper thigh and hip pain


On 26 Apr 2006 12:43:11 -0700, Charlie.Pendejo@gmail.com wrote:

>You'll want to figure out what's wrong with more precision than "thigh
>area hurts". It's very likely a condition with a name and which
>zillions of runners have experienced,

Syphillis?


 
Date: 27 Apr 2006 05:47:23
From: Dot
Subject: Re: Upper thigh and hip pain


azucar_101@hotmail.com wrote:
> I have been runnine for about 4 years now, nothing for marathons, but
> in the process I have managed to lose about 30 pounds. I read
> somewhere that sometimes if the muscles in the leg are not balanced in
> strength, it can cause this type of pain resulting from uphill running,
> and since we moved that is the only thing that has changed. Two months
> ago I began to have a lot of pain in my thigh area which started out in
> the hip joint of my left leg.

You might need to be more specific as to where it hurts - front of thigh
(quadricep), side (ITB-Illotibial Band), etc.

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/wnor/antthigh.htm
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/wnor/pelvis.htm

Just a general thought: A lot of things (muscles, tendons, ligaments)
come together in the hip / pelvic area, a really critical area for
running. A weakness or imbalance in any one of those or anything
connected to them (like the entire body) could manifest itself in
numerous ways.

You might want to consider seeing a physical therapist or some other
practioner familiar with running biomechanics. They can probably figure
things out with an exam that we can only guess through cyberspace. In
particular, we try to diagnose the problem through web pages, which may
be a good start to at least start thinking about what the problem may
be. But a good PT or other practioner (operational word is "good") can
look at the whole body and figure out that something wrong at x is
manifesting itself at y a long way away. (I say this from experience - I
was so far off on what I thought a hip issue was that I was essentially
stretching backwards from what I should have been.)

Yes, poor posture (leaning forward) and too many hills too soon can
contribute to hip problems (as Tony said), probably especially so if you
have any muscle imbalances. You might try focusing on running tall and
maybe thrusting hips forward. It seems like they're forward, but
probably really just in line. But if you're in enough pain that you
stopped running, I would consider just paying attention to posture in
general.


>Is there any such thing as an ace type bandage that can be
> worn like a short? I have seen the compression shorts, bought a pair
> and quite frankly am dissapointed by them, they seem to do nothing for
> me.

If you tried the CW-X compression shorts, be aware there's a couple
different styles (pro, expert, and maybe some others by now). I have the
pro shorts and expert tights, and I found the pro shorts helped my hips
- along with tons of stretching provided by my PT. For my problems, the
pro shorts provided more support than the expert tights because the
webbing was where I needed it.
http://cw-x.com/ss/technology/tights_tuned

But more than anything, it was my PT correctly diagnosing my problem and
telling me how to fix it. He had previously diagnosed some muscle
imbalances, like hamstring weakness. Also spending more time vertical,
like running or walking or skiing, rather than sitting at desk helps -
more stretching than compressing.

Good luck.

Dot

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