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Date: 26 Nov 2006 16:39:47
From: Proctologically Violated©®
Subject: Upper body build of sprinters
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The Olympic 100 m guys (and girls) look like goddamm bodybuilders in the
upper body--and of course in the lower.
Clearly they do some bou cou weight lifting--or so it seems.
Any idears on their training regimen? Heavy, or moderate for reps, or very
light for speed, power?
Is developing the upper body that important to sprinters?
Or does it just give a bit of an edge, so they build up the upper body on
their off-running days?
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Date: 27 Nov 2006 03:37:58
From: Elflord
Subject: Re: Upper body build of sprinters
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On 2006-11-26, Proctologically Violated©® <entropic3.14decay@optonline2.718.net > wrote:
> The Olympic 100 m guys (and girls) look like goddamm bodybuilders in the
> upper body--and of course in the lower.
> Clearly they do some bou cou weight lifting--or so it seems.
Yes, they get that build from a combination of weight lifting, and a lot of
fast twitch muscle (which gains size easily)
> Any idears on their training regimen? Heavy, or moderate for reps, or very
> light for speed, power?
A lot of explosive work, mostly lowish reps. Reasonably heavy weights.
> Is developing the upper body that important to sprinters?
Depends. 0.01 seconds is important in an olympic level 100m sprint.
> Or does it just give a bit of an edge, so they build up the upper body on
> their off-running days?
Some of them are in the weights room every day though not necessarily upper body.
Cheers,
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Elflord
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Date: 27 Nov 2006 08:02:11
From: LSmith
Subject: Re: Upper body build of sprinters
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Elflord wrote:
>It's
> a huge exaggeration to say they look like bodybuilders.
Not sure about that, you've got these two great sprinters for example
http://tinyurl.com/yccmru
http://tinyurl.com/sflpf
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Date: 27 Nov 2006 17:32:30
From: Elflord
Subject: Re: Upper body build of sprinters
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On 2006-11-27, LSmith <Digisend@gmail.com > wrote:
>
> Elflord wrote:
>>It's
>> a huge exaggeration to say they look like bodybuilders.
>
> Not sure about that, you've got these two great sprinters for example
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yccmru
>
> http://tinyurl.com/sflpf
Put them next to a 300lb bodybuilder and see how they look ...
They have great muscle definition, but they are nowhere near as big.
Cheers,
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Elflord
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Date: 27 Nov 2006 16:43:53
From: Proctologically Violated©®
Subject: Re: Upper body build of sprinters
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The guys I've seen on TV were quite a bit more muscled than these pics, but
still they are impressive.
True, I was being hyperbolic about the BBer comparison, but still, that's
some upper body for dewds who would seem to be using mainly their legs.
But if that upper body strength gives a competitive edge, then I guess it's
mandatory. I thought such upper body training might *detract* from more
productive lower-body training.
Carl Lewis seemed to be one of the skinnier guys, but even he was impressive
and sinewy throughout.
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"LSmith" <Digisend@gmail.com > wrote in message
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>
> Elflord wrote:
>>It's
>> a huge exaggeration to say they look like bodybuilders.
>
> Not sure about that, you've got these two great sprinters for example
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yccmru
>
> http://tinyurl.com/sflpf
>
>
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Date: 26 Nov 2006 22:32:09
From: Kaz Kylheku
Subject: Re: Upper body build of sprinters
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Elflord wrote:
> On 2006-11-26, Proctologically Violated=A9=AE <entropic3.14decay@optonlin=
e2.718.net > wrote:
> > Any idears on their training regimen? Heavy, or moderate for reps, or =
very
> > light for speed, power?
>
> A lot of explosive work, mostly lowish reps. Reasonably heavy weights.
Let's not forget the steroids.
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Date: 27 Nov 2006 14:33:45
From: Elflord
Subject: Re: Upper body build of sprinters
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On 2006-11-27, Kaz Kylheku <kkylheku@gmail.com > wrote:
> Elflord wrote:
>> On 2006-11-26, Proctologically Violated©® <entropic3.14decay@optonline2.718.net> wrote:
>> > Any idears on their training regimen? Heavy, or moderate for reps, or very
>> > light for speed, power?
>>
>> A lot of explosive work, mostly lowish reps. Reasonably heavy weights.
>
> Let's not forget the steroids.
If they were 250lb at 5'9", I'd attribute it to steroids, but most of them
aren't very big (more like 180lb -- if they get too big it hinders them). It's
a huge exaggeration to say they look like bodybuilders.
It's simply off base for the average person to try to get that build by
training like a sprinter. Most people would have a much better chance of
getting the same looks (albeit with much slower sprint times) via a
conventional bodybuilding program.
Cheers,
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Elflord
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 20:15:13
From: Sylvan Smyth
Subject: Re: Upper body build of sprinters
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Elflord <abuse@aol.com > wrote:
>It's a huge exaggeration to say they look like bodybuilders.
Hmm.
1990: http://tinyurl.com/yfollm
1995: http://tinyurl.com/ynycdm
Same guy five years later. Looks like a little buildin's bin goin'
on.
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 11:58:51
From: Elflord
Subject: Re: Upper body build of sprinters
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On 2006-11-28, Sylvan Smyth <sylvan@islandnet.com > wrote:
> Elflord <abuse@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>It's a huge exaggeration to say they look like bodybuilders.
>
> Hmm.
>
> 1990: http://tinyurl.com/yfollm
>
> 1995: http://tinyurl.com/ynycdm
>
> Same guy five years later. Looks like a little buildin's bin goin'
> on.
He's built but not even close to "pro bodybuilder" big.
Cheers,
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Elflord
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 07:50:09
From: Proctologically Violated©®
Subject: Re: Upper body build of sprinters
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Mebbe a 1940s bodybuilder. :)
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"Elflord" <abuse@aol.com > wrote in message
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> On 2006-11-28, Sylvan Smyth <sylvan@islandnet.com> wrote:
>> Elflord <abuse@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>It's a huge exaggeration to say they look like bodybuilders.
>>
>> Hmm.
>>
>> 1990: http://tinyurl.com/yfollm
>>
>> 1995: http://tinyurl.com/ynycdm
>>
>> Same guy five years later. Looks like a little buildin's bin goin'
>> on.
>
> He's built but not even close to "pro bodybuilder" big.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Elflord
>
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 01:40:30
From: Jeckel And Hyde
Subject: Re: Upper body build of sprinters
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"Kaz Kylheku" wrote:
>
>Elflord wrote:
>> On 2006-11-26, Proctologically Violated=A9=AE <entropic3.14decay@optonlin=
>e2.718.net> wrote:
>> > Any idears on their training regimen? Heavy, or moderate for reps, or =
>very
>> > light for speed, power?
>>
>> A lot of explosive work, mostly lowish reps. Reasonably heavy weights.
>
>Let's not forget the steroids.
>
Lol!
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Date: 27 Nov 2006 20:53:10
From: LSmith
Subject: Re: Upper body build of sprinters
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runsrealfast wrote:
> point is most are not anywhere near body
> builder range.
>
> John
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We'll have to agree to disagree. I've seen lots of spinters up close
and personal and lots of them look "near body builder range" (upper
body) and sometimes lower.
Look at this photo of Donovan....you gonna tell me that's not
"somewhere near body builder range"?
http://www.sporting-heroes.net/files_athletics/BAILEY_D_19950806_GH_L.jpg
Of course it is.
How about Tyson Gay & Terrence Trammell & Shawn Crawford?
http://tinyurl.com/y6uyoa
These guys are not doing all the tricks & techniques to make their
veins pop, etc. that bodybuilders do....but when you see body builders
in "down-mode"...they don't look like they do in show-mode. These
sprinters clearly qualify as "near body builder range" upper body,
which was the OP.
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 19:29:00
From: steve common
Subject: Re: Upper body build of sprinters
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"LSmith" <Digisend@gmail.com > wrote:
>Look at this photo of Donovan....you gonna tell me that's not
>"somewhere near body builder range"?
>
>http://www.sporting-heroes.net/files_athletics/BAILEY_D_19950806_GH_L.jpg
>
>Of course it is.
Sure is. Just a question of extremes. This sort probably can't run very
fast
http://www.mxmen.com/free/show.php?id=d9b8f522
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 11:57:28
From: Elflord
Subject: Re: Upper body build of sprinters
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On 2006-11-28, steve common <steven.common@wanadoo.fr > wrote:
> "LSmith" <Digisend@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Look at this photo of Donovan....you gonna tell me that's not
>>"somewhere near body builder range"?
>>
>>http://www.sporting-heroes.net/files_athletics/BAILEY_D_19950806_GH_L.jpg
>>
>>Of course it is.
>
> Sure is. Just a question of extremes. This sort probably can't run very
> fast
Unless by "bodybuilder" you mean the average guy in the gym, they're all
bigger than sprinters. Here's a picture of Dexter Jackson, who is one of
the "little guys" in pro bodybuilding.
http://www.teamflexwheeler.com/flex/image8_/dext002.jpg
http://www.teamflexwheeler.com/flex/image8_/dext008.jpg
Cheers,
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Elflord
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 09:29:43
From: Elflord
Subject: Re: Upper body build of sprinters
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On 2006-11-28, LSmith <Digisend@gmail.com > wrote:
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> runsrealfast wrote:
>> point is most are not anywhere near body
>> builder range.
>>
>> John
> _
>
>
> We'll have to agree to disagree. I've seen lots of spinters up close
> and personal and lots of them look "near body builder range" (upper
> body) and sometimes lower.
>
> Look at this photo of Donovan....you gonna tell me that's not
> "somewhere near body builder range"?
>
> http://www.sporting-heroes.net/files_athletics/BAILEY_D_19950806_GH_L.jpg
>
> Of course it is.
>
> How about Tyson Gay & Terrence Trammell & Shawn Crawford?
>
> http://tinyurl.com/y6uyoa
Compare them side by side to this guy:
http://www.bbcenter.sk/images/gallery/muzi/paul_dillet/dillet05.jpg
Dillet's arms look bigger than the legs on these guys.
> These guys are not doing all the tricks & techniques to make their
> veins pop, etc. that bodybuilders do....but when you see body builders
> in "down-mode"...they don't look like they do in show-mode. These
Bodybuilders are *bigger* in "down mode". They drop 30-40 pounds in crash
dieting and dehydration to get to show mode.
Cheers,
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Elflord
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Date: 27 Nov 2006 14:07:06
From: runsrealfast
Subject: Re: Upper body build of sprinters
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Elflord wrote:
>
> Put them next to a 300lb bodybuilder and see how they look ...
>
> They have great muscle definition, but they are nowhere near as big.
Back when the US nation meet was in Sacramento alot, of course, we used
to go all the time. One year we had front row seats for the 100m final
and the 400 m final. in the 100m's Some (emphasis on some) were
outright huge while others were in the big and well definded range. It
was a little different in the 400m. for instance Michael Johnson was
pretty darn ripped, however, I wouldn't say he was big (although much
bigger than any distance runner. The difference between a 400m runner
and a 800m runner is alot.) point is most are not anywhere near body
builder range.
John
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 11:06:05
From: LSmith
Subject: Re: Upper body build of sprinters
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what was that about steve? i suddenly feel less clean.
believe it or not there are actually white guys that are sprinters and
built pretty damn near as body builder close-ish as black guys.
shocking i know....but true. honest. i know, you need proof as it
sounds absurd. here ya go.
http://daily.stanford.org/image/preview/4457?x=400
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 15:39:35
From: Proctologically Violated©®
Subject: Re: Upper body build of sprinters
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And then there is Steve Nash, in BBall.
What's the world coming to?
Oh, and Yao. wow....
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"LSmith" <Digisend@gmail.com > wrote in message
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> what was that about steve? i suddenly feel less clean.
>
> believe it or not there are actually white guys that are sprinters and
> built pretty damn near as body builder close-ish as black guys.
> shocking i know....but true. honest. i know, you need proof as it
> sounds absurd. here ya go.
>
> http://daily.stanford.org/image/preview/4457?x=400
>
>
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 20:29:09
From: steve common
Subject: Re: Upper body build of sprinters
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"LSmith" <Digisend@gmail.com > wrote:
>what was that about steve?
I was agreeing with you that sprinters look like some bodybuilders - but
not extreme types, example provided.
The photo was just the first pair of "bodybuilder who certainly couldn't
run well" thighs which I found on Google. No idea what colour he is
(doesn't look black to me) and anyway, believe it or not, I think the
black guys generally look better.
You should be thankful I didn't post the first "lady" bodybuilder whose
photo I found :-P
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 08:25:20
From: Miss Anne Thrope
Subject: Re: Upper body build of sprinters
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Sprinters build up their upper bodies mostly for symmetry. Gigantic
thighs, and a weak chest would make them look as goofy as they act.
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Date: 27 Nov 2006 21:15:21
From: Twittering One
Subject: Re: Upper body build of sprinters
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> Look at this photo of Donovan....you gonna tell me that's not
> "somewhere near body builder range"?
>
> http://www.sporting-heroes.net/files_athletics/BAILEY_D_19950806_GH_L.jpg
That's not Donovan.
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 12:24:41
From: Doug Freese
Subject: Re: Upper body build of sprinters
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"Twittering One" <mournenwould@aol.com > wrote in message
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>> Look at this photo of Donovan....you gonna tell me that's not
>> "somewhere near body builder range"?
>>
>> http://www.sporting-heroes.net/files_athletics/BAILEY_D_19950806_GH_L.jpg
>
> That's not Donovan.
Of course it isn't, Donovan does wear those shoes.
-DF
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 11:36:21
From: runsrealfast
Subject: Re: Upper body build of sprinters
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LSmith wrote:
> runsrealfast wrote:
> > point is most are not anywhere near body
> > builder range.
> >
> > John
> _
>
>
> We'll have to agree to disagree. I've seen lots of spinters up close
> and personal and lots of them look "near body builder range" (upper
> body) and sometimes lower.
I said most. "lots" could be viewed as outliers. My example refered to
the top US sprinters
John
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