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Date: 01 Nov 2006 06:26:31
From: LSmith
Subject: The Mexican Two Step
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http://washingtontimes.com/sports/20061101-120025-3317r.htm
Two top-10 finishers disqualified for cheating
By Steve Nearman
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
November 1, 2006
Two women from Mexico City who finished in the top 10 at Sunday's
Marine Corps Marathon have been disqualified after missing a checkpoint
on the course.
Race director Rick Nealis decided yesterday to remove them from the
results after a query by The Washington Times shortly after the race.
"Right now, they're not seventh and eighth any longer," he said.
The two women -- Pilar Paras and Consuelo Visoso -- had identical
finishing times of 3:07:44. The 34-year-old Visoso would have placed
third in the 30-34 age group. But neither Visoso nor Paras recorded a
split at 20 miles.
Their split times at five miles (34 minutes), 10 miles (59 minutes)
and 23.5 miles (2:27) made little sense, either. The winner, Laura
Thompson, passed 23.5 miles firmly in the lead in just under 2:37.
The last time a runner was eliminated from the top 10 was in 2002,
when the Marines outed Chandra Bozelko of Orange, Conn., for cutting
the course after she crossed the finish line ninth among the women in
3:07:15.
Two Mexican men also were purged from the results for missing the
20-mile checkpoint. Jose Visoso Del Valle and Alvaro Altamirano also
finished in 3:07:44 and recorded unusual split times. Their splits
indicated they led the race at the five-mile mark in an exceptionally
fast 24:07 and 24:09, respectively, when in fact the clear-cut leader
at that time -- Jared Nyamboki -- ran 25:37.
Del Valle, 65, would have won the 65-69 age group by nearly 30
minutes if his time had been legitimate.
Del Valle also ran in the 2004 New York City Marathon with Paras
and Visoso, and Altamirano joined the three at the Chicago Marathon
last year. The women finished those races in four to five hours.
Back in 1997, two Mexican runners were disqualified for missing
check points.
Robert Villanueva of Baltimore and Tim Mullen of Timonium, Md.,
were disqualified for the same reason as Del Valle and Altamirano,
posting five-mile splits ahead of Nyamboki in 21:35 and finishing
together in 3:51:30.
Nealis said it would be several days before the results are
cleansed of participants who cheated. Last year, several hundred
entrants were disqualified for cutting the 26.2-mile course.
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Date: 01 Nov 2006 07:46:26
From: Alinabi
Subject: Re: The Mexican Two Step
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That's a LOT of people cheating in one race. Maybe the route was not
clearly marked and some of these incidents were unintentional?
On Nov 1, 9:58 am, "Ed Prochak" <edproc...@gmail.com > wrote:
> LSmith wrote:
> >http://washingtontimes.com/sports/20061101-120025-3317r.htm
>
> > Two top-10 finishers disqualified for cheating
> > By Steve Nearman
> > THE WASHINGTON TIMES
> > November 1, 2006
>
> > Two women from Mexico City who finished in the top 10 at Sunday's
> > Marine Corps Marathon have been disqualified after missing a checkpoint
> > on the course.
> []
> > Their split times at five miles (34 minutes), 10 miles (59 minutes)
> > and 23.5 miles (2:27) made little sense, either.Is there more than on place they could have cheated? according to pace,
> those times seem to make sense to me:
> 5mile in 34 is just under 7minute pace
> 10miles in 59 is just under 6minute pace
> (the missed checkpoint was @ mile 20)
> 23.5 miles in 2:27 (147minutes) is just over 6minute pace
> The overall times seems okay.
>
> So what about mile 6-10? subtracting out mile1-5, the time was
> 25minutes for the second 5miles. Okay that seems a little bit of a
> jump, but if these were elite runners could they do a burst like that
> and then settle back to a 6minute pace? I guess the RD decided no, they
> couldn't. Is there a place to cut the course in those 5miles?
>
> But based on that info, cheating the mile 20 checkpoint is not obvious
> to me. What am I missing?
>
> Ed.
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Date: 01 Nov 2006 06:58:42
From: Ed Prochak
Subject: Re: The Mexican Two Step
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LSmith wrote:
> http://washingtontimes.com/sports/20061101-120025-3317r.htm
>
> Two top-10 finishers disqualified for cheating
> By Steve Nearman
> THE WASHINGTON TIMES
> November 1, 2006
>
> Two women from Mexico City who finished in the top 10 at Sunday's
> Marine Corps Marathon have been disqualified after missing a checkpoint
> on the course.
[]
> Their split times at five miles (34 minutes), 10 miles (59 minutes)
> and 23.5 miles (2:27) made little sense, either.
Is there more than on place they could have cheated? according to pace,
those times seem to make sense to me:
5mile in 34 is just under 7minute pace
10miles in 59 is just under 6minute pace
(the missed checkpoint was @ mile 20)
23.5 miles in 2:27 (147minutes) is just over 6minute pace
The overall times seems okay.
So what about mile 6-10? subtracting out mile1-5, the time was
25minutes for the second 5miles. Okay that seems a little bit of a
jump, but if these were elite runners could they do a burst like that
and then settle back to a 6minute pace? I guess the RD decided no, they
couldn't. Is there a place to cut the course in those 5miles?
But based on that info, cheating the mile 20 checkpoint is not obvious
to me. What am I missing?
Ed.
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