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Date: 17 Nov 2006 00:34:49
From: Doug Freese
Subject: DK, not!
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For my pal Lance. That's 30 miles a day for 108 not 50 days and he
hauled all his own stuff. As I said DK's affort was admirable but when
you look at records he is just so so. All the skinny is at
http://www.planetultramarathon.com/pacerun.htm
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Paul Staso, of Missoula, Montana, completed a 3,260-mile solo run across
the United States on October 20, 2006. The trek began at Cannon Beach,
Oregon and ended 108 running days later at Cape Henlopen State Park on
the Delaware coast. He averaged 30 miles per day across America and
became the 7th person to successfully run across the continent without a
support crew. He pushed all of his required gear, water and food in an
Ironman jogging stroller provided by BOB Trailers, Inc. of Boise, Idaho.
His route included 15 states: Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Montana, North
Dakota, South Dakota, Minnesota, Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, West
Virginia, Virginia, Maryland (and Washington D.C.), and Delaware.
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-Doug
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 18:04:59
From: Charlie Pendejo
Subject: Re: DK, not!
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> Paul Staso, of Missoula, Montana, completed a 3,260-mile solo run
> across the United States [...] He pushed all of his required gear, water
> and food in an Ironman jogging stroller
Ha! Talk about wearing his childbirth envy on his sleeve: dude crossed
the entire continent with a freaking *baby stroller*!!
His name is also an anagram for, among others:
pasta soul (I suppose 3260 miles = a whole lotta carbs)
a salt soup (yeah, need to replace that sodium too)
slaps auto (guess he's a true environmentalist)
atlas opus (yeah, he sure did cover a wide swath of map)
also at ups (no wonder my order took 8 weeks and got shaken to bits)
pouts, alas (moody over the childbirth envy, I guess)
a lot up ass (ok, but he's *still* not gonna get preggers)
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 16:56:52
From: Twittering One
Subject: Re: DK, not!
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Are there any adverse effects on the body,
doing this?
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 19:17:31
From: Beginning runner
Subject: Re: DK, not!
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In article <1163725012.925212.253610@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com >,
"Twittering One" <mournenwould@aol.com > wrote:
> Are there any adverse effects on the body, doing this?
Just on the knees and the hips; if you don't believe me ask the
sugarless tea guy.
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Date: 17 Nov 2006 09:50:37
From: Tom Wheeler
Subject: Re: DK, not!
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5000 in a year:
100 miles a week:
13.4 =D7 365 retard:
wins N.Y.
wins 7 of =D7 u.s.a.
so did roger ranger, D Borneo and every one in Ope
randers the greater.
and a zillion others.
now a days there is a motor to do every thing and these people well find
a needle in the hay stack to burst the bubble.
Get over it.
time to move on.
a wheeled handy capper.
5 miles a day this year is good for me. weather anyone wants it or not.
No work is fine.
trails here big time going up now.
and x people I new for 30 years seem to like to blamed me.....Good......
motor mouth.....shoot me......Big Deal....
get in line:
I don't care the fact is..when I do..I never get or got paid.the end by
by.do the math
mad biker.: >)
Do It Yourselfs.have a good life.
I don't ever get or got paid...ever.......
they hipe all on a pay check...I haven't ever gotten one bloodey cent
ever....
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Date: 17 Nov 2006 06:29:45
From: LSmith
Subject: Re: DK, not!
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er, you forget one,
Free ass do glue.
Alas now we know why he's so full of shit.
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Date: 17 Nov 2006 14:37:22
From: LSmith
Subject: Re: DK, not!
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Doug Freese wrote:
> For my pal Lance.
_
What's the purpose of your post? (other than to establish the deep
jealousy & profound resentment that you & the ultra community have for
DK as you seek to marginalize & diminish him to no end?) DK recognizes
Kouros & Bergland, all that came before him all the time....and so
fucking what if he did not?
Furthermore the point established by me was DK after his continuous
daily mega miles culminated the epic in an IOC standard event with
adeep & broad competition and still clocked at stunning 72.7% AG rating
(and a neg split). That's what no one in the ultra community does
Doug, and that's one of the the many things that separates DK from the
ultra community, why he rises above the crowd. He's Great Doug.
Even on top of that fantastic Marathon performance....how do you place
it in a more amazing context? He wore 1 lb 9 oz of shoes (wearing the
NorthFace Arnuva e50 trail shoe in this road marathon). You've never
ran the NYCM Doug. I don't think Donovan or Pendejo would be too keen
on running the NYC Marathon in a pair of trail running shoes, the
thought alon is terrorfying.
I don't see ultrarunners courting competition. If they wanted to race
competitively, they can jump in Boston, Chicago, London, etc. and make
a statement, like DK did. They don't do it, and certainly not after
doing what DK did (26.2/day for 49 consecutive days).
DK's great Doug, he's also a genius. You Doug are a dimwit and I
would not be surprised if most ultrarunners are rather dimwits as well.
Does not matter how many degrees they have, they're still on the
whole dimwits. I had a 10 minute conversation with Pam Reed. She
has few to no endorsements, not even a damn shoe. That's a joke and
speaks to her lack of business acumen. I had a business conversation
with her about the demographic she represents and how many billions are
spent by that demographic on pharmaceuticles, etc. I told her she
should be Proctor & Gamble's poster child. She should be selling
everything from foot insoles to one-a-day vitamims ( I mentioned on
this ng she takes no supplements). Most of my conversation with Pam
Reed was about potential revenue streams.
Instead of tactfully growing the sport w/DK, the ultra community
resents his success. I've met and spoke with DK twice, latest 2 weeks
ago and I asked him about how he felt about you haters Doug, he
laughed, shook his head as if he did not get it (why you all hate
him)...and I just told him, "to hell with them, they're idiots, you're
a genius". That's what I said. Why is DK a genius? A couple a
years ago in an interview DK said,
"I've also been experimenting with this contraption called a Hydro
Bronc that allows me to run on water. It was designed for ice rescues
on frozen lakes, but I've been running in the ocean on it. I'm hoping
to run from Catalina Island to Newport Beach, which is 26.2 miles'a
marathon'on water".
Now Doug Freese and the rest of the Ultra Community hates DK for
reasons as illustrated above. Why Doug and the rest of the Ultra
Community are dimwits is it's exactly this type of creative and
innovative thinking, outside the box, that DK has done to make himself
who he is on the running & sponsorship landscape.
It's about being intelligent and clever. DK does not have to be the
best ultrarunner, he's the smartest (and the only relevant one). DK's
on the cover of RW, has a deal with RW, numerous major sponsors, major
book publisher, and it's DK that commands $10K-$15K for a speaking
engagement. DK has (and is building) quite the multi-million dollar
enterprise around his passion. Doug, none of you....not a single
ultrarunner, not even Pam Reed is relevant.
Your posture Doug is laughable. You don't get it. You're a dimwit
because you can't simply step back and say the man's an excellent
business man. Doug, in the 'hood they would say, "He pimped the game",
okay? The man built an enterprise within the endeavor for himself.
He has no obligations to anyone in ultrarunning. This is America Doug,
that's what we do here, it should be applauded and heralded for
crissakes, not despised and resented. If ultrarunning was smart
they would try and work with DK to bring some real sponsorship to the
sport and grow the big picture for crissakes.
So while these ultra runners are doing the same old shit in their same
old circles and seeing the same old motherfuckers?......DK's
thinking....plotting,....strategizing something. DK's not fulfilled
by the same old shit these other guys are happy with....DK's the smart
guy they all hate.
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Date: 17 Nov 2006 20:11:37
From: Beginning runner
Subject: Re: DK, not!
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In article <1163803042.279433.238730@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com >,
"LSmith" <Digisend@gmail.com > wrote:
> Now Doug Freese and the rest of the Ultra Community hates DK for
> reasons as illustrated above.
Not the entire ultra community; a close friend of mine is training for
her first ultra, and she greatly admires DK. She plans to be part of
the greeting party when he reaches San Francisco.
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 11:58:58
From: Doug Freese
Subject: Re: DK, not!
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"Beginning runner" <bogus@invalid.com > wrote in message
news:bogus-E645A7.20113717112006@news.west.cox.net...
> In article <1163803042.279433.238730@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>,
> "LSmith" <Digisend@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Now Doug Freese and the rest of the Ultra Community hates DK for
>> reasons as illustrated above.
>
> Not the entire ultra community; a close friend of mine is training for
> her first ultra, and she greatly admires DK. She plans to be part of
> the greeting party when he reaches San Francisco.
Not to beat the dead horse but any "hate" that I have for DK is only in
Lance's imagination. DK is good, notice the word good, not great,
runner. And as I have said in the past, his publicity effort has done
a lot for the sport and that is good at least until my favorite races
fill to fast. ;)
Hell, even Lance, who normally dislikes all ultra runners is now a DK
groupie. Ya gotta love that about-face. Who knows maybe he will shy away
from the food troth, lose a few pounds and not use BMI as his crutch. If
that happens I declare DK a miracle worker. ;)
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 09:36:28
From: Beginning runner
Subject: Re: DK, not!
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In article <6AC7h.32268$Fw5.14912@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com >,
"Doug Freese" <dfreese@hvc.rr.com > wrote:
> Hell, even Lance, who normally dislikes all ultra runners is now a DK
> groupie. Ya gotta love that about-face. Who knows maybe he will shy
> away from the food troth, lose a few pounds and not use BMI as his
> crutch. If that happens I declare DK a miracle worker. ;)
I look at ultra runners, marathoners, half marathoners, 10 mile runners,
10 K runners, and 5 mile runners all the same: "Maybe, some day, I'll
be able to do that." In the meantime, I'm working on 5K. Speaking of
which, I need to get ready for my last run in the C to 5K program now.
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 20:32:49
From: Doug Freese
Subject: Re: DK, not!
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"Beginning runner" <bogus@invalid.com > wrote in message
news:bogus-3525FE.09362818112006@news.west.cox.net...
> I look at ultra runners, marathoners, half marathoners, 10 mile
> runners,
> 10 K runners, and 5 mile runners all the same:
As we should! Each of us picks a range of distances, the
terrain(trails, roads, flat, hilly) and then decides to race all out
or just plod along for the socialization. It only gets awkward when an
individual decides that THEIR concept/definition of running is better,
that we get into lively discussions.
It only matters that we are all out there taking care of our bodies.
> "Maybe, some day, I'll be able to do that."
One step at a time. :)
> In the meantime, I'm working on 5K.
Me too, my annual 5k to see how much I have slowed but I'll accept my
humiliation with a smile. Enjoy the 5k and who knows where you will be
in 3-6 months. Please do it gradually and enjoy it!!!
-Doug
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 13:35:53
From: Beginning runner
Subject: Re: DK, not!
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In article <R5K7h.32287$Fw5.25426@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com >,
"Doug Freese" <dfreese@hvc.rr.com > wrote:
> Enjoy the 5k and who knows where you will be in 3-6 months. Please do
> it gradually and enjoy it!!!
I plan to. I believe that one thing that I've learned is that if I
don't do it gradually, and if I try to achieve too much at once, I won't
enjoy it--and if I don't enjoy it, I'll stop doing it. And that would
be Not Good.
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 22:15:34
From: steve common
Subject: Re: DK, not!
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"Doug Freese" <dfreese@hvc.rr.com > wrote:
>DK is good, notice the word good, not great,
As I have previously pointed out <yamns from the audience > , it's not
because Serge Girard is French that it makes him less impressive.
DK is a very good ultrarunner but compared to this guy, he's a bed mite,
as well as being younger :oP
By the end of the weekend, Serge will probably have completed his 21000th
kilometer (he already passed 13000 miles) of the year.
=== Wikipedia entry ========
Serge Girard is a French ultramarathon runner born in 1953. He fullfilled
the challenge of running across the 5 continents without a single day off.
Runs achieved so far
* 1997: trans-USA (Los Angeles to New York) - 4,597km in 52 days, 23
hours, 20min (world record)
* 1999: trans-Australia (Perth/Sydney) - 3,755km in 46 days, 23 hours,
12min (former world record, beated by Achim Heukemes)
* 2001: trans-South America (Lima/Rio de Janeiro) - 5,235km in 73
days, 3 hours, 40min (world record)
* 2003/2004: trans-Africa (Dakar/Cairo) - 8,295km in 123 days, 2
hours, 40min (world record)
* 2005/2006: trans-Eurasia (Paris/Tokyo-) - 19,097km in 262 days
(probably world only attempt)
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http://www.sergegirard.com/
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 14:20:56
From: Beginning runner
Subject: Re: DK, not!
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In article <bftul2ll02c4t53mm9pt721t2gskgndqas@4ax.com >,
steve common <steven.common@wanadoo.fr > wrote:
> * 2005/2006: trans-Eurasia (Paris/Tokyo-) - 19,097km in 262 days
> (probably world only attempt)
How did he get to Honshu from the mainland?
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 18:34:10
From: steve common
Subject: Re: DK, not!
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Beginning runner <bogus@invalid.com > wrote:
>How did he get to Honshu from the mainland?
It appears that there is a 1/2 mile tunnel under the sea. He ran through
it on day 220.
http://www.sergegirard.com/anglais/log_book,220,.html
Photo
http://www.sergegirard.com/francais/galerie,220,2007,.html
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 12:07:51
From: Beginning runner
Subject: Re: DK, not!
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In article <uu41m29ionvl460n0oq5fv2c8fc7ifuvus@4ax.com >,
steve common <steven.common@wanadoo.fr > wrote:
> >How did he get to Honshu from the mainland?
>
> It appears that there is a 1/2 mile tunnel under the sea. He ran
> through it on day 220.
That's the tunnel from Kyushu Island to Honshu Island. The Japanese
Islands are much further from the mainland than a half mile. Take a
look at a map of the area.
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 01:55:53
From: Doug Freese
Subject: Re: DK, not!
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"LSmith" <Digisend@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1163803042.279433.238730@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> What's the purpose of your post?
To let you know that records are being set all the time and most of the
time with little or no one knowing about it. Even the ultra list knew
nothing about the effort and we tend to follow most anything.
> He's Great Doug.
No his is merely good with a great desire for publicity to pick up
groupies like you. If you were really a DK fan you would have paid the
$100 he charged to run with him. But wait, you could not have kept up
with him.
Maybe all this ultra hero worship will get you out of central Park and
forego your BMI crutch.
-DF
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 01:02:11
From: The Trailrunner
Subject: Re: DK, not!
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LSmith wrote:
> If ultrarunning was smart
> they would try and work with DK to bring some real sponsorship to the
> sport and grow the big picture for crissakes.
And then we'd have hordes of yahoos like you like you that will never
get it doing ultras. Yeah, THAT sounds like a great idea! When will you
get it through that little pea brain of yours that 99% of ultra runners
do ultras to get away from all the hype and cut throatness of road racing?
And FWIW, I have nothing against DK and in fact applaud his ability to
make a living doing what he likes. BUT... however a great businessman he
is, doesn't make him a great ultrarunner.
--
- The Trailrunner
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Date: 17 Nov 2006 23:18:25
From: I2Run
Subject: Re: DK, not!
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"LSmith" <Digisend@gmail.com > wrote in message
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 01:01:29
From: Dot
Subject: Re: DK, not!
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I2Run wrote:
> "LSmith" <Digisend@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1163803042.279433.238730@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 02:13:23
From: I2Run
Subject: Re: DK, not!
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"Dot" <dot.h@#duh?att.net > wrote in message
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Date: 20 Nov 2006 01:53:05
From: anders
Subject: Re: DK, not!
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Beginning runner kirjoitti:
> That's the tunnel from Kyushu Island to Honshu Island. The Japanese
> Islands are much further from the mainland than a half mile. Take a
> look at a map of the area.
It would appear that Serge Girard flew from Shanghai to Fukuoka.
A Danish chap who completed a rather similar feat, a 26.000 km "World
Run" in 2005, took the Siberian route and flew from Vladivostok to
Niigata. Other non-running legs on Jesper Olsen's route across the
world were Dover-Calais, Puttgarden-R=F8dby, Copenhagen-Malm=F6,
Stockholm-Turku, Tokyo-Sydney, Perth-Vancouver, New York-Shannon and
Dublin-Liverpool.
BTW when Olsen started, his pulse at his customary 6min/km pace was
just under 120 bpm and it first rose a little to peak at 125 in about
two months of running, but after eight months his pulse at that pace
stayed below 85 bpm!
FWIW during his journey he participated in a half-marathon in Omsk
(1:21), a six-day race in Australia (754km) and a 5K trail race in the
U=2ES. (16:35).
He is now planning a "World Run 2", 40.000km from north to south and
back again, from Nordkapp, Norway to Cape Town, South Africa and from
Punta Arenas, Chile to Newfoundland, Canada in 2008-2010...
Anders
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Date: 20 Nov 2006 22:18:13
From: Tony S.
Subject: Re: DK, not!
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"anders" <hop.allez@suomi24.fi > wrote in message
news:1164016385.581054.17330@j44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
... >
BTW when Olsen started, his pulse at his customary 6min/km pace was
just under 120 bpm and it first rose a little to peak at 125 in about
two months of running, but after eight months his pulse at that pace
stayed below 85 bpm!
<
Fascinating datapoint. Talk about adaptation and fitness...
-Tony
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