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Date: 04 Oct 2006 18:52:36
From: Pylls, Barry
Subject: Comments welcome on Gatorade replacement
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I found lots of recipes on usenet
http://groups.google.ca/groups?lnk=hpsg&hl=en&q=gatorade+recipe
http://groups.google.ca/group/rec.sport.triathlon/msg/f90560b8c061c2fc?hl=en&
http://groups.google.ca/group/rec.running/msg/02e697d9debaf09e?hl=en&
http://groups.google.ca/group/rec.bicycles.misc/msg/58ecfd6860cca617?hl=en&
http://groups.google.ca/group/rec.bicycles.misc/msg/0b52413910e3a486?hl=en&
http://groups.google.ca/group/rec.running/msg/18ff11e0acd6596f?hl=en&
http://groups.google.ca/group/rec.running/msg/51bd4eb84c726331?hl=en&
All say approximately the same the same thing:
Fuit juice; OR water plus some kind of sugar
Salt (perhaps half potassium chloride, a.k.a. half-salt)
Salt/sugar to taste.
I would tend toward the half-salt rather than table salt because apparently, too much sodium isn't good, and potassium prevents cramps. You still need some sodium, however, since there has been some posting saying that you lose sodium when sweating.
My question comes down to the sugar. There are many sugars. For working out in the gym (pushups, situps, leg lifts, crunches, pull-downs, etc..) with not much break between sets, I liken it to running. Does it matter what kind of sugar one gets?
In addition to whether any sugar is more suitable, I'm considering convenience, too.
* Must be commonly available in grocery stores
* Must dissolve in cold water easily
- Don't want to spend time boiling water
- Having the shake the mixture is OK
Baking sugar comes to mind. My GF used brown sugar in her tree-planting days.
Thanks for any comments!
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Date: 04 Oct 2006 22:42:33
From: Kaz Kylheku
Subject: Re: Comments welcome on Gatorade replacement
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Pylls, Barry wrote:
> I found lots of recipes on usenet
Vegetable cocktail, such as V8. Lots of sodium and potassium, no sugar
added.
> My question comes down to the sugar. There are many sugars. For working out in the gym (pushups, situps, leg lifts, crunches, pull-downs, etc..) with not much break between sets, I liken it to running. Does it matter what kind of sugar one gets?
For working out in the gym, you don't need to sugar yourself.
Yes.
> Baking sugar comes to mind. My GF used brown sugar in her tree-planting days.
Sugar is not very good; you want pure glucose. Glucose, or starchy
compounds made up of glucose units (e.g. maltodextrin) or some
combination thereof for different absorption rates.
But only in a racing situation that is at least half marathon, and
perhaps on long training runs of at least 18 miles.
Outside of racing or training long distances, there is no need
whatsoever for runners to consume refined sugar.
It shouldn't even be in the diet.
And that means no junk: no Gatorade, no energy bars and the like.
What you need for training is a balanced diet with plenty of complex
carbohydrates.
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Date: 05 Oct 2006 07:08:29
From: John Forrest Tomlinson
Subject: Re: Comments welcome on Gatorade replacement
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On 4 2006 22:42:33 -0700, "Kaz Kylheku" <kkylheku@gmail.com >
wrote:
>> Baking sugar comes to mind. My GF used brown sugar in her tree-planting days.
>
>Sugar is not very good; you want pure glucose. Glucose, or starchy
>compounds made up of glucose units (e.g. maltodextrin) or some
>combination thereof for different absorption rates.
>
>But only in a racing situation that is at least half marathon, and
>perhaps on long training runs of at least 18 miles.
If the athlete only uses the produce with glucose or sugars in long
runs, how can he/she knowledgeable about how much to drink, how to get
it down, concentrations, etc?
And if the athlete is only doing long runs every ten days or couple of
weeks, will he/she have enough time to figure this out?
It seems to me that even if the sports drink isn't important on short
runs, it should be used on at least some short runs to simply get in
*practice* of using it.
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Date: 06 Oct 2006 07:25:48
From: Pylls, Barry
Subject: Re: Comments welcome on Gatorade replacement
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Kaz Kylheku wrote:
> Pylls, Barry wrote:
>> I found lots of recipes on usenet
>
> Vegetable cocktail, such as V8. Lots of sodium and potassium, no sugar
> added.
>
>> My question comes down to the sugar. There are many sugars. For working out in the gym (pushups, situps, leg lifts, crunches, pull-downs, etc..) with not much break between sets, I liken it to running. Does it matter what kind of sugar one gets?
>
> For working out in the gym, you don't need to sugar yourself.
>
> Yes.
>> Baking sugar comes to mind. My GF used brown sugar in her tree-planting days.
>
> Sugar is not very good; you want pure glucose. Glucose, or starchy
> compounds made up of glucose units (e.g. maltodextrin) or some
> combination thereof for different absorption rates.
>
> But only in a racing situation that is at least half marathon, and
> perhaps on long training runs of at least 18 miles.
>
> Outside of racing or training long distances, there is no need
> whatsoever for runners to consume refined sugar.
Whst if one's workout lasts 5 hours, and the last meal was about 5 hours ago? It just seems like one needs a ready source of fast-metabolized sugar.
> It shouldn't even be in the diet.
>
> And that means no junk: no Gatorade, no energy bars and the like.
>
> What you need for training is a balanced diet with plenty of complex
> carbohydrates.
>
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Date: 20 Oct 2006 00:09:10
From: Pylls, Barry
Subject: Re: Comments welcome on Gatorade replacement
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OK, here's my recipe:
1L of water, of which 1/2 to 1/4 cup may be replaced by juice (lean toward 1/4 cup). I guess one could always use a splash of concentrated lemon juice for flavouring instead, or a dollop of frozen concentrated juice.
1/4 cup sugar, which consists of 50% fructose (low glycemic load, no idea of the rapidity of metabolization) and 50% glucose (a.k.a. dextrose).
1/tsp half-salt (50% potassium chloride, 50% sodium chloride).
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Comments welcome on Gatorade replacement
Date: Wed, 04 2006 18:52:36 -0400
From: Pylls, Barry <Doh@buoy.com >
Organization: T. Hee Hee Enterprises
Newsgroups: rec.running
I found lots of recipes on usenet
http://groups.google.ca/groups?lnk=hpsg&hl=en&q=gatorade+recipe
http://groups.google.ca/group/rec.sport.triathlon/msg/f90560b8c061c2fc?hl=en&
http://groups.google.ca/group/rec.running/msg/02e697d9debaf09e?hl=en&
http://groups.google.ca/group/rec.bicycles.misc/msg/58ecfd6860cca617?hl=en&
http://groups.google.ca/group/rec.bicycles.misc/msg/0b52413910e3a486?hl=en&
http://groups.google.ca/group/rec.running/msg/18ff11e0acd6596f?hl=en&
http://groups.google.ca/group/rec.running/msg/51bd4eb84c726331?hl=en&
All say approximately the same the same thing:
Fuit juice; OR water plus some kind of sugar
Salt (perhaps half potassium chloride, a.k.a. half-salt)
Salt/sugar to taste.
I would tend toward the half-salt rather than table salt because apparently, too much sodium isn't good, and potassium prevents cramps. You still need some sodium, however, since there has been some posting saying that you lose sodium when sweating.
My question comes down to the sugar. There are many sugars. For working out in the gym (pushups, situps, leg lifts, crunches, pull-downs, etc..) with not much break between sets, I liken it to running. Does it matter what kind of sugar one gets?
In addition to whether any sugar is more suitable, I'm considering convenience, too.
* Must be commonly available in grocery stores
* Must dissolve in cold water easily
- Don't want to spend time boiling water
- Having the shake the mixture is OK
Baking sugar comes to mind. My GF used brown sugar in her tree-planting days.
Thanks for any comments!
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Date: 21 Oct 2006 23:18:43
From: Pylls, Barry
Subject: Re: Comments welcome on Gatorade replacement
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Pylls, Barry wrote:
> OK, here's my recipe:
>
> 1L of water, of which 1/2 to 1/4 cup may be replaced by juice (lean toward 1/4 cup). I guess one could always use a splash of concentrated lemon juice for flavouring instead, or a dollop of frozen concentrated juice.
>
> 1/4 cup sugar, which consists of 50% fructose (low glycemic load, no idea of the rapidity of metabolization) and 50% glucose (a.k.a. dextrose).
>
> 1/tsp half-salt (50% potassium chloride, 50% sodium chloride).
Oops. That should read 1/4 tsp half-salt.
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Comments welcome on Gatorade replacement
> Date: Wed, 04 2006 18:52:36 -0400
> From: Pylls, Barry <Doh@buoy.com>
> Organization: T. Hee Hee Enterprises
> Newsgroups: rec.running
>
> I found lots of recipes on usenet
> http://groups.google.ca/groups?lnk=hpsg&hl=en&q=gatorade+recipe
> http://groups.google.ca/group/rec.sport.triathlon/msg/f90560b8c061c2fc?hl=en&
> http://groups.google.ca/group/rec.running/msg/02e697d9debaf09e?hl=en&
> http://groups.google.ca/group/rec.bicycles.misc/msg/58ecfd6860cca617?hl=en&
> http://groups.google.ca/group/rec.bicycles.misc/msg/0b52413910e3a486?hl=en&
> http://groups.google.ca/group/rec.running/msg/18ff11e0acd6596f?hl=en&
> http://groups.google.ca/group/rec.running/msg/51bd4eb84c726331?hl=en&
>
> All say approximately the same the same thing:
>
> Fuit juice; OR water plus some kind of sugar
> Salt (perhaps half potassium chloride, a.k.a. half-salt)
>
> Salt/sugar to taste.
>
> I would tend toward the half-salt rather than table salt because apparently, too much sodium isn't good, and potassium prevents cramps. You still need some sodium, however, since there has been some posting saying that you lose sodium when sweating.
>
> My question comes down to the sugar. There are many sugars. For working out in the gym (pushups, situps, leg lifts, crunches, pull-downs, etc..) with not much break between sets, I liken it to running. Does it matter what kind of sugar one gets?
>
> In addition to whether any sugar is more suitable, I'm considering convenience, too.
> * Must be commonly available in grocery stores
> * Must dissolve in cold water easily
> - Don't want to spend time boiling water
> - Having the shake the mixture is OK
>
>
> Baking sugar comes to mind. My GF used brown sugar in her tree-planting days.
>
> Thanks for any comments!
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