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Date: 04 Apr 2006 18:03:51
From: tree14
Subject: Burning toes
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I'm 60+ and training for a half marathon and have done several 2:15
hour training runs in Nike Shox, but at around 1:45 my toes begin to
really burn, no blisters, but just like when you get a new pair of
shoes, the only thing is it is much more painful and continues till
finish and then after cooling down my feet are back to normal. Any
suggestions like perhaps a recommended sock or as somebody told me
smother my feet with vaseline.... thanks
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Date: 04 Apr 2006 20:29:45
From:
Subject: Re: Burning toes
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Tree,
Stand up. Place your feet about 4 inches apart and pointed straight
ahead. Now keep your body as straight as you are able. Now lean
forward from the ankle about and inch or two. Notice that your toes
start to dig/claw into the shoe or if in socks into the floor.
Often when runners get tired on long runs, their head drops forward and
creates the experience you just had by leaning forward from the ankle.
The image that helps is that you have no toes, so there is no need to
claw or have the toes dig into the surface.
Also if you push the crown of the head up, and keep the eyes on the
horizon, you'll stay centered over your core and the toes will be less
likely to dig into the surfrace.
Another exercise is during the day when you are standing be sure you
can always wiggle your toes.
Often, especially in women in pumps or a higher heeled shoe, you'll see
the toes digging in.
The dors give it a name, Claw Toe...and often they would like to do
surgery on release the clawing. If only the person would align their
posture the clawing toe would not be necessary and would go away.
So remember, the toes should always be able to wiggle, even when
standing on the ball of the foot.
In health and on the run,
Ozzie Gontang
Director, San Diego Marathon Clinic.
I have run in socks for about 20+ years. When the shoe and foot are
moving in unison, there is no friction and therefore no blister.
I continue to advocate landing ball/heel as if marching in place.
Check out fellow teachers who have done some wonderful teaching of good
running form and style: Danny Dreyer of http://www.chirunning.com and
Nicolas Romanov of http://www.posetech.com
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Date: 04 Apr 2006 19:15:12
From: PiledHIgher
Subject: Re: Burning toes
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tree14 wrote:
> I'm a little confused The Nike shox is a good running shoe but many
> of you people seem to have some sort of hate on for Nike, the shoe is
> fine I'm looking for a solution to the burning, please forget about
> knocking Nike and try to be a little more helpful.
>
Nike Shox are not running shoes, they are not on the Nike Running web
sites. The heel is ridiculously high and that may be part of th reason
that you are pushed forward onto your toes, causing heating.
Nike make some running shoes that suit me, but not lots of people. They
do well with light biomechanically neutral people. But those shoes
aren't shoxs, they are things like pegasus, perseus, zoom elite etc.
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Date: 05 Apr 2006 00:50:32
From: tree14
Subject: Re: Burning toes
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I'm a little confused The Nike shox is a good running shoe but many
of you people seem to have some sort of hate on for Nike, the shoe is
fine I'm looking for a solution to the burning, please forget about
knocking Nike and try to be a little more helpful.
On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 18:03:51 GMT, tree14 <garryhatter@telus.net >
wrote:
>I'm 60+ and training for a half marathon and have done several 2:15
>hour training runs in Nike Shox, but at around 1:45 my toes begin to
>really burn, no blisters, but just like when you get a new pair of
>shoes, the only thing is it is much more painful and continues till
>finish and then after cooling down my feet are back to normal. Any
>suggestions like perhaps a recommended sock or as somebody told me
>smother my feet with vaseline.... thanks
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Date: 05 Apr 2006 12:01:20
From: Doug Freese
Subject: Re: Burning toes
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"tree14" <garryhatter@telus.net > wrote in message
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> I'm a little confused The Nike shox is a good running shoe but many
> of you people seem to have some sort of hate on for Nike, the shoe is
> fine I'm looking for a solution to the burning, please forget about
> knocking Nike and try to be a little more helpful.
We have our generic trolls and we have our anti-Nike trolls. Just ignore
the pea brains.
-DF
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Date: 05 Apr 2006 08:59:17
From:
Subject: Re: Burning toes
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On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 12:01:20 GMT, "Doug Freese" <dfreese@hvc.rr.com >
wrote:
>We have our generic trolls and we have our anti-Nike trolls. Just ignore
>the pea brains.
>
>-DF
So Doug, are you saying the nike shox is a legit running shoe? That is
what's at the crux of this.
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Date: 05 Apr 2006 15:47:19
From: Doug Freese
Subject: Re: Burning toes
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<TheRealThingg@aol.com > wrote in message
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> So Doug, are you saying the nike shox is a legit running shoe? That is
> what's at the crux of this.
Legit for who? What I think about that specific shoe doesn't mean jack
shit. If someone finds solace in the shox or a two ounce racing flat or
screws imbedded in their feet and no racing organization says it is
illegal, then it is legit for that person.
And then we have the dorks that think all Nike or all brand X is bad
which is absurdly ignorant!
I hope I've answered your question.
-DF
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Date: 05 Apr 2006 13:22:10
From:
Subject: Re: Burning toes
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On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 15:47:19 GMT, "Doug Freese" <dfreese@hvc.rr.com >
wrote:
>Legit for who? What I think about that specific shoe doesn't mean jack
>shit. If someone finds solace in the shox or a two ounce racing flat or
>screws imbedded in their feet and no racing organization says it is
>illegal, then it is legit for that person.
>
You are still dodging the question. Every runner here knows shox are
not running shoes. So why do you cling to this fantasy?
>And then we have the dorks that think all Nike or all brand X is bad
>which is absurdly ignorant!
>
True, but it's not their fault nike sucks.
>I hope I've answered your question.
Not at all.
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Date: 05 Apr 2006 05:54:44
From:
Subject: Re: Burning toes
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On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 00:50:32 GMT, tree14 <garryhatter@telus.net >
wrote:
>I'm a little confused
If you are wearing nike shox, you are a LOT confused.
> The Nike shox is a good running shoe but many
>of you people seem to have some sort of hate on for Nike, the shoe is
>fine I'm looking for a solution to the burning, please forget about
>knocking Nike and try to be a little more helpful.
>
Look asswipe, shox are GRBAGE, CRAP, SHIT, WORTHLESS, JUNK, USELESS
for running, get it? When not one person out of thousands defends
your shoe, and they all tell you they are designer shoes, it IS true.
You are a fucking dumbass jerkoff. No go the fuck away before I beat
the fuck out of you with your shox.
Bill Rodgers
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Date: 05 Apr 2006 00:33:37
From: Phil M.
Subject: Re: Burning toes
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tree14 wrote:
> I'm 60+ and training for a half marathon and have done several 2:15
> hour training runs in Nike Shox, but at around 1:45 my toes begin to
> really burn, no blisters, but just like when you get a new pair of
> shoes, the only thing is it is much more painful and continues till
> finish and then after cooling down my feet are back to normal. Any
> suggestions like perhaps a recommended sock or as somebody told me
> smother my feet with vaseline.... thanks
No blisters now, but hot spots on your feet are usually an indication
that blisters will come if you continue to run. Are you sure you're
wearing the correct shoe size? It could be the shoes are too short and
causing extra pressure on the toes. As you run longer, it could be that
your toes expand and cause the extra friction and heat. I've found that
if a shoe doesn't feel a little big while I'm just standing on it, then
after 2 or 3 hours of running it's going to end up being too small,
especially when running downhills. Check the inside of the shoe. Make
sure there aren't any exposed stitching that could be irritating your
toes. Check your socks. Make sure they are smooth inside and out, with no
rough spots. Don't wear cotton socks. My favorite sock is WigWam Ultimax
(http://tinyurl.com/oz5q3). You don't have to smother your feet in
vaseline. A light coat, especially around the toes works weel for me.
Keeps my feet comfartable and blister-free.
--
Phil M.
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Date: 04 Apr 2006 17:08:57
From: bluezfolk
Subject: Re: Burning toes
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Somebody mentioned Mortons Neuroma, a possible indicator of that is
if the second toe is longer than the first. My toes start to burn
somewhere between mile 7 and 9, if you find a cure, let me know. I've
worn Nike, New Balance, Saucony, Asics, dosen't seem to matter.
Eric
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Date: 04 Apr 2006 19:04:33
From:
Subject: Re: Burning toes
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On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 18:03:51 GMT, tree14 <garryhatter@telus.net >
wrote:
>I'm 60+ and training for a half marathon and have done several 2:15
>hour training runs in Nike Shox, but at around 1:45 my toes begin to
>really burn, no blisters, but just like when you get a new pair of
>shoes, the only thing is it is much more painful and continues till
>finish and then after cooling down my feet are back to normal. Any
>suggestions like perhaps a recommended sock or as somebody told me
>smother my feet with vaseline.... thanks
Get rid of those shit shoes you idiot. Shox are NOT running shoes.
Actually no nike is, they are designer shoes.
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Date: 04 Apr 2006 14:47:40
From:
Subject: Re: Burning toes
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Who the fuck are you, Fred Flintstone in the Midas commercial?
Go get REAL shoes, and this excludes nikes. Nikes cause injurys, and
are undoubtedly your problem.
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Date: 04 Apr 2006 14:47:34
From:
Subject: Re: Burning toes
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Who the fuck are you? Fred Flintstone in the Midas commercial?
Go get REAL shoes, and this excludes nikes. Nikes cause injurys, and
are undoubtedly your problem.
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Date: 04 Apr 2006 12:41:21
From:
Subject: Re: Burning toes
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tree14 wrote:
> I'm 60+ and training for a half marathon and have done several 2:15
> hour training runs in Nike Shox, but at around 1:45 my toes begin to
> really burn, no blisters, but just like when you get a new pair of
> shoes, the only thing is it is much more painful and continues till
> finish and then after cooling down my feet are back to normal. Any
> suggestions like perhaps a recommended sock or as somebody told me
> smother my feet with vaseline.... thanks
First of all, Nike Shox are fashion shoes, not running shoes, so get
some proper running shoes for a start! Don't buy shoes on-line unless
you are an experienced runner who knows what he's doing. If you're
heavy on your feet (or just heavy!) then Brooks or Saucony do good
shoes for you. Asics are also recommended. I personally run a lot in
Nikes but only their racing flats - they may not be suitable for you
unless you are reasonably quick and quite light.
As for the "burning" sensation - it could be something like Morton's
Neuroma (though that is generally the metatarsal arch that "burns" -
the toes go sort of numb). Alternatively, it could be because the
shoes don't fit very well - i.e. too tight. If I were you I'd get
myself along to a good running shop, staffed by runners, who will be
able to help.
Good luck.
Edward
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Date: 05 Apr 2006 08:18:41
From: Pea Brain
Subject: Re: Burning toes
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>garryhatter@telus.net (tree14):
>I'm 60+ and training for a half marathon and
>have done several 2:15 hour training runs in
>Nike Shox, but at around 1:45 my toes begin to
>really burn
Repeat after me: "Nikes are junk."
Ignore our advice and you risk injury.
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Date: 05 Apr 2006 09:01:31
From:
Subject: Re: Burning toes
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On Wed, 5 Apr 2006 08:18:41 -0400, PeaBrainer@webtv.net (Pea Brain)
wrote:
>Repeat after me: "Nikes are junk."
>Ignore our advice and you risk injury.
He's right, nike SUCKS! Only the "soon-to-be-injured", and the injured
wear nike.
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Date: 05 Apr 2006 08:16:16
From: Charlie Pendejo
Subject: Re: Burning toes
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tree14 wrote:
> in Nike Shox, but at around 1:45 my toes begin to really burn
Sounds like you're in the wrong model of Shox - these will give you an extra
hour: http://tinyurl.com/f6fkk
Sorry, can't offer any real help but at least I won't shriek "Nike Sux".
Some of my favorite shoes are Nikes.
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Date: 05 Apr 2006 11:12:06
From: Ed Prochak
Subject: Re: Burning toes
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legitshoes@notnikes.com wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 15:47:19 GMT, "Doug Freese" <dfreese@hvc.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Legit for who? What I think about that specific shoe doesn't mean jack
> >**expletive**. If someone finds solace in the shox or a two ounce racing flat or
> >screws imbedded in their feet and no racing organization says it is
> >illegal, then it is legit for that person.
> >
>
> You are still dodging the question. Every runner here knows shox are
> not running shoes. So why do you cling to this fantasy?
If it works, use it. Stop being a fanatic about NIKE.
>
> >And then we have the dorks that think all Nike or all brand X is bad
> >which is absurdly ignorant!
> >
>
> True, but it's not their fault nike sucks.
Maybe for you they do, but not everyone has problems with NIKE like you
do.
>
> >I hope I've answered your question.
>
> Not at all.
keep trolling.
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Date: 05 Apr 2006 14:15:01
From:
Subject: Re: Burning toes
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On 5 Apr 2006 11:12:06 -0700, "Ed Prochak" <edprochak@gmail.com >
wrote:
>If it works, use it. Stop being a fanatic about NIKE.
This isn't about nike, it's about the shox model. Answer the fookin'
question.
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Date: 05 Apr 2006 23:50:42
From: Doug Freese
Subject: Re: Burning toes
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<legitshoes@nikesucks.org > wrote in message
news:r72832prnc6pdltk77517t8eabva3qpuna@4ax.com...
> On 5 Apr 2006 11:12:06 -0700, "Ed Prochak" <edprochak@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>If it works, use it. Stop being a fanatic about NIKE.
>
> This isn't about nike, it's about the shox model. Answer the fookin'
> question.
It was answerd but you're too dumb to understand the answer.
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Date: 05 Apr 2006 20:09:36
From:
Subject: Re: Burning toes
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On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 23:50:42 GMT, "Doug Freese" <dfreese@hvc.rr.com >
wrote:
>It was answerd but you're too dumb to understand the answer.
Ok DF, whatever you say DF, we understand you DF, DF.
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Date: 05 Apr 2006 10:25:11
From:
Subject: Re: Burning toes
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bad answer doug and you know that. a person can find nutrional solace
in this,
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6498304/
despite it being legitimate food, it's not too popular with the health
oriented nutrionally aware and concerned crowd (for reasons). same
with the shox, no?
our culture is overperscribed and overmedicated and the shox shoe falls
right in that vein in the running shoe world. for most people i
suspect they're an aid to continue & support an unideal striking
technique. (as opposed to a piece of technology incorporated in a shoe
supporting an actual problem). i could be wrong.
the shoes prime market is the non-runner. in new york city w/daily
runners i'm guessing less than 1% wears shox shoes. i also have never
seen a runner with shox that had the model with the shox on the
forefoot too. however go to any sports club/gym and i'd guess 25% of
that crowd wears the shoe. I'm guessing your local numbers might be
similar.
a person can believe the shox shoe works for them, however i more so
believe that's a product of little experience/exposure to all the many
brands and models of running shoes. however people believe what they
want to (can you say nasal strip?). My conclusions about the shoe are
formed from seeing the shox so incredibly rarely worn by regular
runners.
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Date: 06 Apr 2006 00:07:40
From: Doug Freese
Subject: Re: Burning toes
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<lanceandrew@aol.com > wrote in message
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> bad answer doug and you know that. a person can find nutrional solace
> in this,
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6498304/
> despite it being legitimate food, it's not too popular with the health
> oriented nutrionally aware and concerned crowd (for reasons). same
> with the shox, no?
I'd pay big bucks fater a race to get my hands on one of those. You
can't discern the difference between food and shoes? Try baking your
insoles for dinner.
> our culture is overperscribed and overmedicated
We agee
> and the shox shoe falls
> right in that vein in the running shoe world. for most people i
> suspect they're an aid to continue & support an unideal striking
> technique. (as opposed to a piece of technology incorporated in a shoe
> supporting an actual problem). i could be wrong.
Yes, you could be wrong but hell, it hasn't stopped you before. ;)
> the shoes prime market is the non-runner. in new york city w/daily
> runners i'm guessing less than 1% wears shox shoes. i also have never
> seen a runner with shox that had the model with the shox on the
> forefoot too. however go to any sports club/gym and i'd guess 25% of
> that crowd wears the shoe. I'm guessing your local numbers might be
> similar.
I have never seen anyone wear them! Us mountain men don't need no
stinkin' shox on our feet, they are in our cars.
> a person can believe the shox shoe works for them, however i more so
> believe that's a product of little experience/exposure to all the many
> brands and models of running shoes. however people believe what they
> want to (can you say nasal strip?). My conclusions about the shoe are
> formed from seeing the shox so incredibly rarely worn by regular
> runners.
I agree but even if one person finds they work for them then all is well
for that person. People bought the Yugo. If Nike does not sell enough of
this model , i.e. lose money, they will stop making them. Didn't we have
the same business case with Air Jordans? Hell, we are being led by an
administration built on mis/dis-information, why not use the same
technique with running shoes. Ta ta Delay!
-DF
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Date: 05 Apr 2006 20:54:57
From: Sir Lancelot
Subject: Re: Burning toes
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>It was written:
>"our culture is overperscribed and
>overmedicated"
>"We agee"
The casual observer reading these posts might attempt to validate,
articulate and pontificate, that there is a real nexus between the
subject matter of these posts and a lack of proper medication being
prescribed to certain participants.
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Date: 05 Apr 2006 21:36:57
From:
Subject: Re: Burning toes
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On Wed, 5 Apr 2006 20:54:57 -0400, UnSilentKnight@webtv.net (Sir
Lancelot) wrote:
>The casual observer reading these posts might attempt to validate,
>articulate and pontificate, that there is a real nexus between the
>subject matter of these posts and a lack of proper medication being
>prescribed to certain participants.
If'n youa meana coons, den yeah.
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Date: 05 Apr 2006 20:32:26
From: Robert
Subject: Re: Burning toes
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"Doug Freese" <dfreese@hvc.rr.com > wrote in message
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>
>Ta ta Delay!
Uh oh,
Freese has a man crush on another repub as he repeatedly makes references.
Not as big a crush as UJ has on W, but Freese has a crush on him too.
>
> -DF
>
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