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Date: 03 Oct 2006 22:01:33
From: Beginning runner
Subject: Advice solicited
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The way I feel now after completing day 1 of week 4 on Monday, I think
that I'll be able to complete the rest of the C to 5K on schedule, or at
least with fairly large increments, unlike getting from week 3 to week 4
(which took me about five weeks).'
So, with that in mind, I'm going to run in the 1 mile event on ober 8
at the Susan Komen Race for the Cure in Phoenix. I do not expect to be
able to run the entire distance. In fact, I plan not to; I'll run three
minutes, walk 1 1/2 minutes, and then attempt to run the rest of the way.
I plan to enter the 5K race at the New Times 10K on November 12th.
That's 5 and a half weeks from now. I <strong >think</strong> that by
then I should be able to run 5K, but if not, I'll do what I can.
Then on Dec 2nd (the day after my 64th birthday), I want to run in the
Ryka Iron Girl 5K, which is three weeks after the New Times race.
Am I being too ambitious, or unrealistic, or do you think this is
doable? Is three weeks enough time for me between races? I do not plan
to go all out any any of the races I do enter, but will run at about or
maybe slightly above (if I'm able) my training runs.
I think that if I shouldn't run both 5K events, I'll probably run in the
Ryka women's event because that would give me an extra three weeks of
training.
Advice not only welcomed, but solicited.
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Date: 04 Oct 2006 10:27:35
From: Ed Prochak
Subject: Re: Advice solicited
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Al Bundy wrote:
> Beginning runner wrote:
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> > I plan to enter the 5K race at the New Times 10K on November 12th.
> > That's 5 and a half weeks from now. I <strong>think</strong> that by
> > then I should be able to run 5K, but if not, I'll do what I can.
> >
> > Then on Dec 2nd (the day after my 64th birthday), I want to run in the
> > Ryka Iron Girl 5K, which is three weeks after the New Times race.
> >
> > Am I being too ambitious, or unrealistic, or do you think this is
> > doable? Is three weeks enough time for me between races? I do not plan
> > to go all out any any of the races I do enter, but will run at about or
> > maybe slightly above (if I'm able) my training runs.
> >
> > I think that if I shouldn't run both 5K events, I'll probably run in the
> > Ryka women's event because that would give me an extra three weeks of
> > training.
> >
> > Advice not only welcomed, but solicited.
> Without researching your previous posts, I don't see a pattern of
> development that will get you to a 10K in such a short time if you are
> still walk/running now.
AL, reread his post, He said he was running the 5K. They must have both
at that event.
> .. I was blessed when I started running to be
> assiciated with some elite runners. Very few have that inate ability.
> What I discovered is that most people vastly underestimate their
> abilities. They shoot too low in targeting distance and time. Instead
> of following somebody else's schedule of training, some people can
> double or triple the achievement of the schedule. In my opinion,
> people would be better off to throw out such schedules and be as
> agressive as they possibly can. To do this they need to be in tune with
> their body. This includes understanding pain and tiredness. You can
> often run through and ignore these things and they will go away. My
> experience has been that a real injury will force you to a stop. You
> won't have to think about it or make the decision. Your body will make
> it for you. Otherwise, keep going and build up your run time.
That's the key, being able to listen to your body. But this is not easy
to do if you have not done this kind of exercise for most of your life.
Which is why I recommend staying with a less agressive schedule. As
they say on Dune, "better to miss an opportunity than to risk
disaster."
Some real injuries do give warning pain before it's too late. It all
comes down to how close you wish to come to that line between your 100%
best and your 101% stress caused injury. So if you prefer to stay
safer, you might only achieve 99% of your best. But that's why we in
rec.running say YMMV
Ed
(Your Mileage May Vary)
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Date: 04 Oct 2006 10:48:22
From: Beginning runner
Subject: Re: Advice solicited
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In article <1159982855.026836.255350@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com >,
"Ed Prochak" <edprochak@gmail.com > wrote:
> > Without researching your previous posts, I don't see a pattern of
> > development that will get you to a 10K in such a short time if you
> > are still walk/running now.
>
> AL, reread his post, He said he was running the 5K. They must have
> both at that event.
Right, they have both a 5K and 10K at each of those two events.
And, BTW, I'm a she, not a he.
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Date: 04 Oct 2006 11:03:03
From: Beginning runner
Subject: Re: Advice solicited
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In article <1159982855.026836.255350@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com >,
"Ed Prochak" <edprochak@gmail.com > wrote:
> That's the key, being able to listen to your body. But this is not
> easy to do if you have not done this kind of exercise for most of
> your life. Which is why I recommend staying with a less agressive
> schedule. As they say on Dune, "better to miss an opportunity than to
> risk disaster."
What I had been doing is the first day of each week I attempted to do
what the plan called for. The first and second weeks, I did it, but
with the third and fourth weeks, I was unable to. So, I came up with a
modified plan to take it incrementally, and each day I evaluated my
progress and further modified the plan as my progress (or lack thereof)
dictated.
As I wrote to Al, my progress right towards the end of week 4 grew more
each time than previously, and allowed me to cut a week or two from my
incremental plan. I'm now where about two weeks ago I expected to be in
two weeks from today.
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Date: 04 Oct 2006 10:49:40
From: Miss Anne Thrope
Subject: Re: Advice solicited
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1 mile event?
That's not an event.........that's a trot.
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Date: 04 Oct 2006 06:42:50
From: Al Bundy
Subject: Re: Advice solicited
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Beginning runner wrote:
> The way I feel now after completing day 1 of week 4 on Monday, I think
> that I'll be able to complete the rest of the C to 5K on schedule, or at
> least with fairly large increments, unlike getting from week 3 to week 4
> (which took me about five weeks).'
>
> So, with that in mind, I'm going to run in the 1 mile event on ober 8
> at the Susan Komen Race for the Cure in Phoenix. I do not expect to be
> able to run the entire distance. In fact, I plan not to; I'll run three
> minutes, walk 1 1/2 minutes, and then attempt to run the rest of the way.
>
> I plan to enter the 5K race at the New Times 10K on November 12th.
> That's 5 and a half weeks from now. I <strong>think</strong> that by
> then I should be able to run 5K, but if not, I'll do what I can.
>
> Then on Dec 2nd (the day after my 64th birthday), I want to run in the
> Ryka Iron Girl 5K, which is three weeks after the New Times race.
>
> Am I being too ambitious, or unrealistic, or do you think this is
> doable? Is three weeks enough time for me between races? I do not plan
> to go all out any any of the races I do enter, but will run at about or
> maybe slightly above (if I'm able) my training runs.
>
> I think that if I shouldn't run both 5K events, I'll probably run in the
> Ryka women's event because that would give me an extra three weeks of
> training.
>
> Advice not only welcomed, but solicited.
Without researching your previous posts, I don't see a pattern of
development that will get you to a 10K in such a short time if you are
still walk/running now. I was blessed when I started running to be
assiciated with some elite runners. Very few have that inate ability.
What I discovered is that most people vastly underestimate their
abilities. They shoot too low in targeting distance and time. Instead
of following somebody else's schedule of training, some people can
double or triple the achievement of the schedule. In my opinion,
people would be better off to throw out such schedules and be as
agressive as they possibly can. To do this they need to be in tune with
their body. This includes understanding pain and tiredness. You can
often run through and ignore these things and they will go away. My
experience has been that a real injury will force you to a stop. You
won't have to think about it or make the decision. Your body will make
it for you. Otherwise, keep going and build up your run time.
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Date: 04 Oct 2006 10:57:50
From: Beginning runner
Subject: Re: Advice solicited
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In article <1159969370.597327.314680@c28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com >,
"Al Bundy" <MSfortune@mcpmail.com > wrote:
> Without researching your previous posts, I don't see a pattern of
> development that will get you to a 10K in such a short time if you
> are still walk/running now.
I'm thinking about getting into the 5K at each event. Even though the
first one is called the "New Times 10K", they have a 5K event as well.
The second one doesn't have a distance in its name.
> What I discovered is that most people vastly underestimate their
> abilities. They shoot too low in targeting distance and time. Instead
> of following somebody else's schedule of training, some people can
> double or triple the achievement of the schedule.
Well, I discovered that up until now, the program was too aggressive for
my conditioning. It took me three weeks after finishing week 2 to do
week 3, and it took me about 5 weeks after finishing week 3 to be able
to do week 4. But towards the end of those five weeks, I got more
aggressive in my approach and discovered that I could do it.
I expect to be able to do week 5 right off the bat after finishing week
4 because of that.
> Otherwise, keep going and build up your run time.
Thanks. That's what I plan to do. I have run through pain already
since starting this plan--not any great amount of pain, I realize, but
pain nevertheless. And I found that by running through it, it goes
away--at least so far, it does.
Oh, as for following this program, I was getting nowhere without it
because I didn't know what I was doing, or what goals to set each week.
the plan gives me something to shoot for each time I run.
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