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Date: 17 Mar 2006 08:25:52
From: mahai
Subject: 3 years to train and new to ultras
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Hello folks, let's see what kind of sage advice I can get from you
seasoned (and unseasoned) runners.
I'm an old (40), fat (5'11", 200lb.) former Marine who desperately
wants to get back in shape --mostly via running. (in the old days I
ran plenty of 5ks, a few 10ks, many long training runs, and a marathon)
I have presently started to run again -- mostly on rocky, rooty trails
in central NC because that is what is available.
I've always had the desire to run a true ultra (min. 50 miler and
eventually a 100m)
I move to China in August and will be there for 3 years. (no organized
races where I will live)
I do have a mountain nearby that has a rode that goes on for about 13
miles with a steep incline for the last 2 miles. I have a goal of
running there and back.
I would like to be able to train for a 50miler so I can run it when I
return to the states (summer, 2009).
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Date: 17 Mar 2006 14:01:56
From:
Subject: Re: 3 years to train and new to ultras
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On 17 Mar 2006 08:25:52 -0800, "mahai" <junk@thescarletthread.com >
wrote:
> rode
Did the marines teach you to spell stupidass?
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Date: 18 Mar 2006 05:46:07
From: thehick
Subject: Re: 3 years to train and new to ultras
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http://www.great-wall-marathon.com/
You have an opportunity in 2007. Probably you could find
a train to beijing.
...thehick
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Date: 18 Mar 2006 11:55:05
From: Doug Freese
Subject: Re: 3 years to train and new to ultras
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"mahai" <junk@thescarletthread.com > wrote in message
news:1142612752.346410.274790@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
> Hello folks, let's see what kind of sage advice I can get from you
> seasoned (and unseasoned) runners.
Start by reading http://www.ultrunr.com/ There is no single way to
train for an ultra. You can poke through these web pages and see what I
mean. Then by trail an error you can see what works best for you. The
fact that your looking at 2009 gives a chance to slowly get back into
running and minimize the chances you will injure yourself. First year
get in shape for maybe a 1/2 marathon. The second a full marathon and
the third a 50k or 50 miler.
-DougF
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Date: 18 Mar 2006 19:31:14
From: Charlie Pendejo
Subject: Re: 3 years to train and new to ultras
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Doug wrote:
> Then by trail an error you can see what works best for you.
I dunno if that's a typo or a freudian slip, but it surely works. :-)
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Date: 19 Mar 2006 11:43:10
From: Doug Freese
Subject: Re: 3 years to train and new to ultras
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"Charlie Pendejo" <charlie.pendejo@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1142728295.301408@nntp.acecape.com...
> Doug wrote:
>> Then by trail an error you can see what works best for you.
>
> I dunno if that's a typo or a freudian slip, but it surely works. :-)
My usual shitty typing
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Date: 19 Mar 2006 10:48:43
From: Charlie Pendejo
Subject: Re: 3 years to train and new to ultras
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Doug wrote:
>> Doug wrote:
>>> Then by trail an error
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> My usual shitty typing
Well I still think you can take credit for a good twist of that phrase. How
to figure out what ultra training works for you? Trail and error.
re: shitty typing, it's interesting, you run enormous distance but type for
speed. I'm trying to run more for short speed this spring but my posts tend
to become endurance affairs (yeah, for me and for the audience). Dunno if
that says anything about either of us but I think better to twist a phrase
than an ankle.
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Date: 20 Mar 2006 11:12:10
From: Doug Freese
Subject: Re: 3 years to train and new to ultras
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"Charlie Pendejo" <charlie.pendejo@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1142783347.207893@nntp.acecape.com...
> re: shitty typing, it's interesting, you run enormous distance but
> type for speed.
What you gain in the legs you lose in the fingers. I seem to use up all
my proof reading skills putting out my running club's newsletter.
> I'm trying to run more for short speed this spring but my posts tend
> to become endurance affairs (yeah, for me and for the audience).
> Dunno if that says anything about either of us but I think better to
> twist a phrase than an ankle.
Let's just conclude we are both twisted. Speed for me is making to the
bathroom in the middle of the night.... just in time. ;)
-DF
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Date: 20 Mar 2006 02:08:52
From: anders
Subject: Re: 3 years to train and new to ultras
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mahai kirjoitti:
> Hello folks, let's see what kind of sage advice I can get from you
> seasoned (and unseasoned) runners.
1. Run daily, from an hour to three.
2. Run slowly.
3. Run for time, not miles.
4. Take short or long walking breaks.
5. Drink moderately.
6. Get up early.
7. Don't eat like a pig.
8. Try to keep your heart rate at 130-135 for 95% of your runs. Walk
for a while when your
HRM bleeps.
9. Don't run downhill.
10. If you knees start hurting, stop running.
Stick to these golden rules for the next 4-6 months (1) and enjoy the
experience of knowing that you may be old and fat but that you still
have time on your side:-) When the stupid idiots who kept insisting
that they needed they needed those intense workouts ot that they
couldn't possibly run so slow have either quit running or been
sidelined by injuries, you will have built a decent foundation on which
to build a base for your new running life!
Rule 11 is optional: that mountain seems to like made for Nordic
Walking (2) - and NWing would be much more suitable for you on that
mountain than running, no matter what you may think.
(1) at which point please come back and report for your progress (and
ask for further instructions - which will not differ too greatly from
the present ones).
(2) Walking with poles http://www.nordicwalkingusa.com ; it may sound
like a gimmick for selling expensive equipment, but isn't - and a fat
man walking with those silly poles won't be gawked at any less than a
fat man running:-)
Anders
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Date: 20 Mar 2006 13:24:46
From: mahai
Subject: Re: 3 years to train and new to ultras
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Now that is what I call a reply! Thanks so much!
MaHai
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