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Date: 31 Oct 2006 03:52:23
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Subject: 2 questions re: first marathon upcoming
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Hi,
My first marathon is Nov 5 in Huntington WV. I am 29, 213 lbs, down
from 285 15 months before, and my best in 10 years after my first year
running. 213 until recently.
1) During the taper I have overeaten and I'm 218. Assume I'm weighing
myself correctly at the same time of day, same amt of clothing, same
time relative to meals, etc. I feel stouter and my clothes feel
tighter. My longest run on HHST was 20 mi. 2 weeks ago in conditions
similar to those forecasted for the marathon and I had to take walking
breaks towards the end. How will my weight gain bear on my marathon
expectations?
2) I sweat like a hog, but it won't be horrible at 40-50 F. I'm taking
along some packets of McDonalds salt in my fuel belt. I've never tried
that before. What is the best and safest way to ingest those?
For any info,
Thanks,
Dan
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Date: 31 Oct 2006 18:53:53
From: Robert Grumbine
Subject: Re: 2 questions re: first marathon upcoming
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In article <1162295543.912820.47530@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com >,
<djneill@iwebworks.com > wrote:
>Hi,
>My first marathon is Nov 5 in Huntington WV. I am 29, 213 lbs, down
>from 285 15 months before, and my best in 10 years after my first year
>running. 213 until recently.
>
>1) During the taper I have overeaten and I'm 218. Assume I'm weighing
>myself correctly at the same time of day, same amt of clothing, same
>time relative to meals, etc. I feel stouter and my clothes feel
>tighter. My longest run on HHST was 20 mi. 2 weeks ago in conditions
>similar to those forecasted for the marathon and I had to take walking
>breaks towards the end. How will my weight gain bear on my marathon
>expectations?
>
>2) I sweat like a hog, but it won't be horrible at 40-50 F. I'm taking
>along some packets of McDonalds salt in my fuel belt. I've never tried
>that before. What is the best and safest way to ingest those?
The extra weight may or may not be overeating. You add some pounds
when you fully restock your body's glycogen stores (water molecules
follow the glycogen). Probably not as much as 5, but quite possibly
2-3.
Regardless, back off your planned pace in the early part of the
marathon (early = before mile 20). Walk through the water stops
(something I have to do anyhow; but for you, if you were seeing
a need to walk by the end of your 20 miler, you'll need some during
the race. Better to start these things earlier, under control, than
later out of defeat.)
Do Nothing New On Race Day.
If you haven't trained/practiced with salt packets during the run,
then don't do so during the race.
If you haven't trained with eating orange slices, don't do so
during the race. (Guy I know, experienced runner gunning for
a sub-3 hour marathon, violated this rule and hit significant
stomache upset. Blew his sub-3, and may have turned it to a
did-not-finish.)
If you haven't done it in training (aside from the 26.2 miles
aspect), don't do it on race day, no matter how 'trivial'
(as with orange slices, which _almost_ everybody has no problem
with).
--
Robert Grumbine http://www.radix.net/~bobg/ Science faqs and amateur activities notes and links.
Sagredo (Galileo Galilei) "You present these recondite matters with too much
evidence and ease; this great facility makes them less appreciated than they
would be had they been presented in a more abstruse manner." Two New Sciences
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Date: 31 Oct 2006 05:16:39
From:
Subject: Re: 2 questions re: first marathon upcoming
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Elflord wrote:
> On 2006-10-31, djneill@iwebworks.com <djneill@iwebworks.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > My first marathon is Nov 5 in Huntington WV. I am 29, 213 lbs, down
> > from 285 15 months before, and my best in 10 years after my first year
> > running. 213 until recently.
> >
> > 1) During the taper I have overeaten and I'm 218. Assume I'm weighing
> > myself correctly at the same time of day, same amt of clothing, same
> > time relative to meals, etc. I feel stouter and my clothes feel
> > tighter. My longest run on HHST was 20 mi. 2 weeks ago in conditions
> > similar to those forecasted for the marathon and I had to take walking
> > breaks towards the end. How will my weight gain bear on my marathon
> > expectations?
>
> It will slow you down. Run slower and you should be fine.
>
> > 2) I sweat like a hog, but it won't be horrible at 40-50 F. I'm taking
> > along some packets of McDonalds salt in my fuel belt. I've never tried
> > that before. What is the best and safest way to ingest those?
>
> Do whatever you've been doing on your 20 milers. If you haven't taken salt
> on those, don't take any in the marathon either. The race is not the place
> to experiment. You would sweat more in a warm 20 miler than a cool marathon,
> so it won't be an issue if it's under 50.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Elflord
Hi Elflord,
Thanks for the advice, no salt march for me :-)
Thanks,
Dan
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Date: 31 Oct 2006 12:45:17
From: Elflord
Subject: Re: 2 questions re: first marathon upcoming
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On 2006-10-31, djneill@iwebworks.com <djneill@iwebworks.com > wrote:
> Hi,
> My first marathon is Nov 5 in Huntington WV. I am 29, 213 lbs, down
> from 285 15 months before, and my best in 10 years after my first year
> running. 213 until recently.
>
> 1) During the taper I have overeaten and I'm 218. Assume I'm weighing
> myself correctly at the same time of day, same amt of clothing, same
> time relative to meals, etc. I feel stouter and my clothes feel
> tighter. My longest run on HHST was 20 mi. 2 weeks ago in conditions
> similar to those forecasted for the marathon and I had to take walking
> breaks towards the end. How will my weight gain bear on my marathon
> expectations?
It will slow you down. Run slower and you should be fine.
> 2) I sweat like a hog, but it won't be horrible at 40-50 F. I'm taking
> along some packets of McDonalds salt in my fuel belt. I've never tried
> that before. What is the best and safest way to ingest those?
Do whatever you've been doing on your 20 milers. If you haven't taken salt
on those, don't take any in the marathon either. The race is not the place
to experiment. You would sweat more in a warm 20 miler than a cool marathon,
so it won't be an issue if it's under 50.
Cheers,
--
Elflord
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